Audio Clip Mixer - MIDI codes for an external controller

Does anybody know if the Audio Clip Mixer generates MIDI codes for an external controller?
I am setting up an old digital mixer as DAW controller. I can get it to work with the Audio Track Mixer but cannot detect any midi for the audio clip mixer.
I am using Midi Monitor and Bomes. Premier CC 2015. MacBook Pro

I haven't checked this with instrument tracks, could it possibly be you have somehow de-selected Universal Track Mode in Preferences/Audio? It should be enabled.

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The Mackie device has some quirks, and while basic functionality is there, PPro does not have as strong support with mackie as it does with eucon through the avid artist series. The physical MCU keys switched between different versions of the device and what is undo on one is a different function on another, so sadly, depending on what model you get, those buttons may or may not be correct by the label that is on the device. There is no way for us to tell which one you have.
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Unfortunately there is no way to group channels at this time, aside from making a submix, but I do not think this is what you were requesting.
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The touch and latch mode lights is a known bug.
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it sounds like a stupid question, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere, because the Audio Clip Mixer is something which is normally found easy.
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