Audio sync fails on import to fcpx from dsr11

problem = audio sync is waaaay off in only ten minutes of importing from Sony dsr11 ( mini DV tape drive)
by the end of 60 minutes import it is 15 seconds behind.
cable = Thunderbolt to firewire adapter -> firewire 400 mini jack on the dsr11
I have turned off  all options on import.
I have turned off Time Machine.
I have the fastest, biggest imac there is. ( i7, 16gb, 3tb fusion, etc.)
Fcp is still starting up a background render (for the proxy images?)
the render progress bar never quits.
I am importing to the internal drive.
I have 3400 HOURS of DV footage that I bought this Apple system to edit.
so I must find a way to import, preferably in the background .

derekha wrote:
If anyone has any ideas as to how to set  up FCPx for a direct import fro the dsr11--- I am all ears.
Well, nothing is going to capture tape – digital or analog – faster than real time. But there are certain things that will use resources after the clips are imported. And they include analyzing for problems and creating clips in editing codecs. Given the scope of your project, I would forgo all that extra sttuff and just get the DV into your Mac and FCP. My import dialog would accordingly look like this.
Russ
PS: You could also create a camera archive and not copy to the event.
Message was edited by: Russ H to add PS

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    This always used to work thru to last fall, when we took a hiatus.
    Upon resuming some final shooting in the last two weeks, our audio edits are always running 2-4 frames behind FCPX. It's a consistent offset for an entire export (so there's no drift, no jitter within the files - but the slate tones might be 2 frames and 17 subframes behind and the whole audio file runs behind.) Another export might be 3 frames 2 subframes behind. Always kind of random in the amount of drift - but never more than 4 frames.
    Tried a test where I imported just the camera audio in Logic as an extracted audio track, then exported same audio file back to the Quicktime but left the original audio in the video - Logic's exported audio ran behind sync from the original.
    Obviously, I'm paying attention to frame rates, sample rates, etc.
    As a test, I exported an XML out of FCPX, imported it into Logic, performed some edits, and used the File>Export>Project to FinalCut Pro XML - so everything matched across the board. Opened the export in FCPX - audio ran behind sync again.
    If it was just audio I was concerned about, I'd just line it up in FCPX and call it done - but my exported MIDI file NEEDS to be in sync with the picture AND the audio... and wasting time calculating the Logic offset error is a huge detour from getting this work done quickly.
    I thought maybe there could be a plug-in issue, but it happened even in the extracted audio from the Quicktime with no plug-ins in any of the signal chains.
    Any ideas?

    Well… here's a clunky workaround.
    It's either a problem with the exported FCPX-XML or the way Logic Pro X interprets the XML.
    The simple test here was to put a clip in the FCPX timeline and export it as an AIFF and then export an XML too.
    Import the XML into Logic, then import the AIFF as a new track. By default the Logic project is 120BPM. By analyzing the xml-based track and the aiff track, the xml track has an added 164 ticks to the beginning of the referenced video-audio.
    Move the playhead to zero, zoom in to the timeline and drag the tick field to 164 then blade all your tracks, then click/drag the bladed tracks to zero. Voila!
    It seems to only affect the first audio file. So for example, when I have 10 video clips in my FCPX timeline, only the first audio clip has the added 164 ticks.
    Now on to the next challenge…
    It's not enough to just de-compound your clips because L and J cuts get referenced to the VIDEO, not the audio underneath.
    So… In FCPX you MUST select each clip and choose Break Apart Clip Items from the Clip Menu. Perhaps this is old news but thought I'd mention it here in case others were having problems.
    Let's hope Apple steps up their xml game and realizes that when I choose export XML-Audio from the xml popup menu… I want it to send the duration of the audio, not the duration of the attached video.
    Ergh! Well… as my friends say… "We're still in the stone age with all this technology."
    Happy editing all!

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