Automatic Posting to Profit Centers

Hi Gurus,
We are currently implementing for a company which is having plants across india and are expecting system to provide plant wise Balance Sheets.
We have configured one Plant = Profit center. So we have as many no of profit centers to match the no of plants.
We have set DUMMY Profit Center as defualt Profit Center, where system cannot determine a profit center from masters.
Now, I would like to know if there is any way by which I can maintain Plant wise Profit Center, so that system can determine profit center based on plant? Or is there any other way by which this can be handled?
Awaiting for your guidance. Will award points accordingly.
Thanks,
Srikanth

Hi Srikant,
The concept of creating the Profit Center is to capture the costs & revenues for various activities and processes in the Plant. You would have assigned Profit Center in the Material Master. Even while
creating cost centers you would have assigned the relative Profit Centers. Whenever a transaction takes place in a Plant for Procurement or Production, the costs & revenues are automatically captured through your assignment in Materials and Cost Centers.
Sadashivan

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Karol W

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Edited by: BPX PARTNERS on May 15, 2008 12:53 AM

Hello,
I did not get you. Profit centers are attached in the Config EK02. Based on your MT/ST- Profit Center combination, your document would be posted.
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<<point beggiing removed>>
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