Backend system used to fetch sources of supply in classic scenario?

Dear Experts,
In sourcing for shopping cart in classic scenaro, the proposing sources of supply fetches possibles sources like contract, info record from local system as well as backend systems. If there are number of backend systems, which system is used to fetch the probable contracts and info-record as source of supply?
Is it the source system for the product category used in the shopping cart? or is there any settings defined in the org structres of the user attributes?
Thanks and regards,
Ranjan

You could try to set a Breakpoint at FM BBP_PDC_SRC_DETERMINE or inside META_sOS_determine.
as KGP said you will get inforecord and contract are valid source of supply
We call the backend system in the plugin function B46B_SOURCEDETER_GETSOS_MULTI at the line:
Get sources of supply from backend system for all items
CALL FUNCTION 'BBP_SOURCEDETER_GETSOS_MULTI'
    DESTINATION lv_destination
    EXPORTING
      iv_find_contract      = iv_find_contract
      iv_find_inforecord    = iv_find_inforecord
      iv_read_price         = iv_read_price
    TABLES
      it_search_criteria    = lt_sos_find_be
      et_found_contracts    = lt_found_contracts
      et_found_inforecords = lt_found_inforecords
      et_return             = ct_return
    EXCEPTIONS
      communication_failure = 1 MESSAGE lv_msg_text
      system_failure        = 2 MESSAGE lv_msg_text
      OTHERS                = 3.
Muthu

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It's a good question. Indeed, I also couldn't find any documentation in the SAPhelp about the inforecord.
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      communication_failure = 1 MESSAGE lv_msg_text
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Hi,
I am currently experiencing the following problem: (We are running SRM 5)
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Please go through the following SAP OSS Notes, which will help ->
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Source of supply doesnu2019t work for SC items ordered as direct material.

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We are working in SRM 5.0 with classic scenario.
We are doing a SC with material code.
We create a SC with two identical items. The only difference between items is: one item is order as direct material and the other one not.
The problem is that for our item order as direct material, the system doesnu2019t propose any ECC contract or any ECC info record. But for our item not order as direct material, the system propose us ECC contract and ECC info record.
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However, in transaction BBPSOCO01 (Carry of sourcing) the systems propose source of supply OK for SC items with and without direct material.
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Source of Supply

Hi everybody,
We are on SRM 5.0 (classic mode). When we create a described requirement the system gets all the sources of supply from the backend system. If there are many sources of supply the system does not assign any one source of supply automatically. However if there is only one source of supply the system automatically assigns the source of supply. Is there a way to not have the system assign the souce of supply to the shopping basket (when there is only one source of supply available)? This should happen only for described requirements shopping basket.
Any ideas or suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Venkat

Venkat,
Currently we are using punchout. Unless we create a info record it does not create a PO in the backend system. Is there some thing we have to do for punchouts?
You dont need to get PIR and contracts for the creation of PO's from punchout catalogs. The configuration step SPRO>SRM SERVER> MASTER DATA> DEFINE EXTERNAL WEB SERVICES will let you assign the BP number for the catalog. This will be transferred to SRM shopping cart as a partner function 19 from the OCI.
Select a business type product catalog for the new Web Service and confirm your selection with Enter. Once you do that the next page will ask you for additional info liek teh BP number for source of supply. This step will automatically ensure the transfer of the source of supply to SRM as a fixed vendor and enable the PO creation.
If this is satisfied with this step, then you can suppress the source of supply with my workaround solution only for describe requirement. '
Also i have a business question for you. If you want to suppress the source of supply of a product category only in the describe requirement, it really doesnt make sense as in the internal goods you use the source of supply for the same product category.
If your business driver is creation of the follow on document on the basis of the shopping cart (describe requirement or internal goods/services), then i guess for the same product category you need to find a distinguishing criteria between the two and use a BADI to force changing the partner function from 19 to 39 (preferred vendor). This will create a PR for describe requirement.
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Please assign points if answer is usefull !!
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Source of supply in shopping cart

Hi everybody,
We are on SRM 5.0 (classic mode). When we create a shopping cart the system gets all the sources of supply from the backend system.
we need source of supply have to be suppressed all across any shopping cart other than catalog (like internal goods/services and describe requirment).In case of catalog,contract is assigned to the master catalog.
our requirement is in case of catalog items system should create a backend PO other than catalog items system need not to be find any source of supply from bakcend and it should alaways create backend PR only.
so i have activated sourcing via vendor list and did'nt create any vendor list at all. This ensure that no source of supply is assigned from the backend and also no source of supply assigned from the vendor list as well. so that in case of catalog, source of supply is assigned from catalog and its creating a backend purchase order but when i have changed the location or purchasing organization in shopping cart, system is reseting source of supply for the catalog items as well.
As a result for source of supply is cleaned for the catalog items also,
Any ideas or suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hi
Which R/3 version are you using ? Please specify clearly, what you want to do ?
Incase i understand you correctly, you want to reset the Vendor details, coming from R/3 backend in the SRM side.
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Sourcing - Sources of supply.

Hello Experts
Could you all please tell what are the different source of supply can be used in classic, extended classic and standalone scenario.
Also let me know, what are the sources of supply can be replicated from the backends and their respective programs.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Santosh,
In SRM source of supply will be assigned in shopping cart level, sourcing cockpit or in PO if a PO created directly without SC (possible only for a professional purchaser role) based on the implementation scenario here is the details information:
Extended classic Scenario:
Source of supply in SC:
1. Source will be copied from catalog if you add shopping carts from catalog
2. Source will be prompted in shopping cart if there is already a contract available for that product category
3. If SC is not soco relevant then after approval PO will be created in held status, where buyer can assign vendor
Sourcing cockpit:
1. Buyer can assign a vendor
2. Buyer can assign a contract
3. Buyer can create a RFx (bid / auction) with reference to SC and later that can be converted into a PO / contract
Sourcing in PO (In case PO is created directly)
Here buyer can assign a vendor
Buyer can enter vendor & contract if contract is available (should be created for same vendor / location & product category combination)
Classic Scenario:
SRM shopping cart:
1. Source will be copied from catalog if you add shopping carts from catalog
2. Source will be prompted in shopping cart if there is already a contract available for that product category
PR / PO in ECC:
1. If a supplier list is maintained then supplier / contract will be picked from the supplier list
2. Buyers can process the PR / PO and assign a source of supply
Standalone / Local scenario:
Same as Extended classic scenario (source of supply assignment)
Replication:
Except the local scenario: Vendor master data can be replicated / update from ECC to SRM using BBPGETVD / BBPUPVD programs
Contracts can be maintained in SRM (contract management) and same can be used as a source of supply in SRM / ECC (SRM 7.0 central contract) or separate contacts for SRM i.e. local contract & ECC i.e. GOA's (In case of SRM 5.0 version)
Also, you can import the contract from ECC to SRM via initial upload program.
Hope above information will provide an overview about the source assignment / replication process.
Regards,
Krish
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Problems with sources of supply determination for external requirements.

Hi gurus...
My scenario is SRM Classic Extended.
We have a problems with sources of supply determination for external
requirements comes from ECC. The shopping cart is created with successful
based in the purchase requisition at ECC, but when i try to make the
determination of sources of supply the system doesnt find any source of
supply.
There are a lot sources of supply creates for these parameters. The
contracts were already replicated to ECC.
This problem only occurs with external requirements comes from ECC, if i
created a shopping cart directly at SRM, using the same parameters, the
system propose the sources of supply correctly.
Is there something that we can do?? This is the normal comportment for the souces of supply?
Tks,
Gustavo Nogueira

Hello Gustavo Nogueira
Then it is an issue.
How are you searching the source of supply in sourcing cockpit.
Can you replicate the issue?
Let me know step by step,
as per standard SAP , source of supply data must be available for shopping carts so that buyer can assign the source of supply.
please share what source of supply you have there .

Assigning a source of supply in sourcing cockpit not working.

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When we assign a source of supply in sourcing cockpit we get the following error : Invalid combination of sources of
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This is how we got the error.
Create a shopping cart and approve it.
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I understand that when I create a SC in EBP, GOA can't be a SOS in "Extended Classic Scenario (SRM 5.0)". If I want to make GOA as SOS, how do I do it ?
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