Bandwidth being reserved for AE guest networks?

Page 24 of the "Apple AirPort Networks" document (http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/airport) says, "When you set up a guest network, a portion of your connection to the Internet is reserved for 'guests', wireless clients that can join the guest network and connect to the Internet without accessing your private network." Question: Does setting up a guest network carve out a fixed and constant amount of available bandwidth such that even when no guest clients are present, the available bandwidth for my private network is less than what otherwise would be available if no guest network was defined?

Welcome to the discussion area, pokerpal!
Question: Does setting up a guest network carve out a fixed and constant amount of available bandwidth such that even when no guest clients are present, the available bandwidth for my private network is less than what otherwise would be available if no guest network was defined?
Apple does not publish a certain specification relating to your question, but several Apple support people mentioned that they had been told by engineers that the bandwidth "reservation" was in the 15-20% range when the Guest network is enabled.
So, makes sense to turn off the Guest network if you don't have "guests", if you want full bandwidth available on the "main" network.

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