Bean-managed persistence (BMP) in EJB 3.0

I've been on the google for a few days now and haven't found one single notion on bean-managed persistence in EJB 3.0 specification. Even the official specification PDFs don't mention it :(
Help! I need BMP! Does anybody know what's the situtation in EJB 3.0? Can I and how mark an entity bean to be bean-managed persistent and use ejbLoad and ejbStore functions like in the EJB 2.0 or something like that?
Tnx in advance,
Igor

Tnx Frank, I was afraid of that :(
I think that is a step back for the EJB technology. Now it is fixed to the table structure, every change in the database calls for a re-desing, re-compilation and re-deplyoment.
With BMP in EJB 2.1 one was able to build a bean that modifies itself according to the table structure dinamically. Is there any way to do it in EJB 3.0?
Igor

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              > >> >>>
              > >> >>>
              > >> >>>
              > >> >>>
              > >> >>>>Thanks again,
              > >> >>>>Bryan
              > >> >>>>
              > >> >>>>
              > >> >>>>
              > >> >>>>"Tao Zhang" <[email protected]> wrote:
              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>>
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              > >> >>>>>>
              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>>It's true. In a cluster environment, each wls instance can have
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              > >ejb
              > >> >>>>>instance. The block of concurrent access to the ejb data is up to
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              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>>> Thanks,
              > >> >>>>>> Bryan
              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>>
              > >> >>>>
              > >> >>>
              > >> >>
              > >> >
              > >>
              > >
              > >
              >
              

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              "KRISH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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              >
              > I am calling a BeanManaged EJB which has a transaction attribute
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              transaction
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              > the transaction aatibute.
              >
              > Thanks
              >
              > Krish.
              >
              

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