Beginner Question: UL Nav Menu and Text Question

Ok, I appreciate the input in advance. Although I am using a Dreamweaver book and online tools like Lynda.com... there are some questions I can't find the answer too or just don't know how to articulate my issue correctly in a search browser to find the right answer...
So, my question:
I have used Spry menu's which are great, but I have taken the time to learn how to create a Pull Down Nav Menu from a Unordered List and CSS.
That UL is driven by text in the list...so what if you want to create an unordered list type Nav pulldown, but want to only use background graphics for the nav menu (i.e. text is already imbedded in the graphic from Photoshop or the graphic has no text and is just a graphic). Whenever I completely delete the text out of a List Item, that list item dissapears, which makes complete sense but begs the question of how do I create a Nav Menu with only graphics that will pull down into multiple levels?
Is what I am asking not a real standard practice and I shouldn't be doing it that way?
If it were a one level menu, I know I could just use floated DIV tags, but since I have pull downs I can't see how that would work in a multiple nested pull down Nav Menu.
Again, sorry for the noob question.. and I appreciate your responses in advance.

Thanks again Murray.. and yes I am serious. I am coding two sites right now for my personal businesses. I have a decent handle on Dreamweaver (but not straight coding which I am sure will come over time through trial and error...) and I now taking courses via Lynda and reading books on PHP.
After seeing your response above, I fell stupid as that is just a failure to learn HTML which is a double-edged sword of DW.
Things are not too bad so far, but I am trying to balance the need for getting the site up in a reasonable amount of time AND learning all the technology behind the site.
Since my site(s) will be actively managed, and I consider myself smart and technically savvy, I just couldn't justify paying someone to manage my sites that would need to be changed almost daily... would probably bankrupt me also.
I know some local sites for medium size businesses where they paid brand name web design companies $40-50k to design and build sites that really aren't that great..and are continuing to pay as they are active sites and they wanted someone to manage them. Other smaller companies are paying between $600 and $1,000 per STATIC page and they provided the artwork upfront and got some pretty simple web development back.
And in this economy, knowing how to design, build, and maintain a website probably isn't the worst skill to have in the event I ever find myself out of middle management CPG work
Some of my challenges I am trying to learn about right now are:
PHP & SQL for contact forms, login for restricted access, consumer feedback, etc.
RSS specific news feeds into the site
SEO
Problem is I seem to have more business ideas than time... I have worked in mid to upper mgmt for large CPG companies most of my life, and recently moved my family to Northwest Arkansas for my career. There is low-hanging fruit everywhere for internet businesses that are tied knowledge specific to the local "retailer" here..In fact, some of them I can't believe haven't been taken advantage of yet (which is why I feel time stressed in case someone else beats me too it).
Thanks again for all your help.
Tim

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I think you can do it, but it might be a pain.
You could import a sample of a single click and just paste it into every beat on the Arrange Page.
Other than that, you might need the sampler included with Logic Pro

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