Best practices for migrating merged WebHelp from RH7 to RH8?

We're using RH7 and we'll be migrating to RH8 in November. I'm startingto get the impression I should budget the time to build up each project anew in RH8 rather than just opening copies in the new UI and hoping it all works. Has anyone blazed this trail? Willing to chat about it?
Thanks
.MW

Hi Roy.
If the networked file was purely a backup there shouldn't have been a problem. If however the file was a source file for a project that was opened on a network drive it could very easily have caused you problems. Unfortunately most people find out the hard way
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