Best quality export: Beta Sp or DVD?

Hi- Ive searched the forum for an hour so forgive me if this has been addressed. I built a movie in CS3: it is 1440 X 1080, 29.97 fps. I would like to export it for a film festival to get the best possible results. They do not have a blu ray player. Ive exported via CS3 to Encore and gotten a mediocre quality using various codecs. Im not sure what Im doing wrong but exporting via H264 loses the widescreen. mpeg 2 plays fine but doesnt look that great.
Would it be better to export the movie as an avi uncompressed and have a dub house transfer to Beta SP for a large screen?
thanks

>I need to play this at a film festival and they only have a dvd player and beta sp.
I don't think Beta SP will look noticeably better than a DVD. (Unless the DVD will have to hold more than 80 minutes of video.)
It may be worth to check
Premiere Pro HDV --> SD DVD Workflow - by Dan Isaacs
. (For additional info see the lengthy
HDV --> SD DVD Workflow
thread.)

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I've searched on the web & gotten a few answers, but nothing seems to solve the situation.
What I've tried.
1920x1080p MPEG2, Quality 5, Min, Target, Max All Set To 60. Came out looking like crap when it was put on a dvd. Noisy, over contrasted (could be the tv), over colored (could be the tv).
720x480 MPEG2-DVD, Quality 5, Min, Target, Max All Set To 9. Came out looking worse then my previous attempt.
Anyone have a secret formula for HDV to DVD conversion?

Hello,
Couple of questions on the below:
1) Does this work for converting .MTS files?
2) If so, I download the Encoder presets, but where do I place them? (I didn't see any .epr files in the root of /encoder
On the Premiere CS4 end of things:
Download these Adobe Media Encoder CS4 presets for 100Mbps MPEG-2 I-frame 4:2:2
Export your 1440x1080 60i timeline using the corresponding preset from the ones above; this will create a (very large) .m2v file and .wav file
Now some freeware tools to get the conversion done properly:
Download and install the Lagarith lossless codec
Download and install VirtualDub
Download and install AviSynth
Download and install my hd2sd() conversion package for AviSynth (instructions for installation are in the .zip file)
Create a new blank text document in notepad, like such, and save this file as premiere.avs, and save it to the same folder as your .m2v and .wav file (edit the video and audio parameters to match your filenames). This is your "script" file for AviSynth:
video = "myfile.m2v"
audio = "myfile.wav"
FFMpegSource(video)
(audio == "") ? last : AudioDub(WavSource(audio))
hd2sd(OutputColorSpace="YUY2", OutputBFF=true)
Run VirtualDub
Open your premiere.avs file in VirtualDub
In VirtualDub, go to Video : Compression and select the Lagarith lossless codec
Also set VirtualDub to use Video : Fast recompress mode
Save your output to lagarith.avi
Import lagarith.avi into Encore for transcoding and authoring

Best Quality Exporting From HDV to DVD with Dan's method

Hi
I have few questions on Dan's method.
here is my workflow according to Dan's method:
On the Premiere CS4 end of things:
Download these Adobe Media Encoder CS4 presets for 100Mbps MPEG-2 I-frame 4:2:2
Export your 19220x1080 60i timeline using the corresponding preset from the ones above; this will create a (very large) .m2v file and .wav file
Now some freeware tools to get the conversion done properly:
Download and install the Lagarith lossless codec
Download and install VirtualDub
Download and install AviSynth
Download and install my hd2sd() conversion package for AviSynth (instructions for installation are in the .zip file)
Create a new blank text document in notepad, like such, and save this file as premiere.avs, and save it to the same folder as your .m2v and .wav file (edit the video and audio parameters to match your filenames). This is your "script" file for AviSynth:
video = "myfile.m2v"
audio = "myfile.wav"
FFMpegSource(video)
(audio == "") ? last : AudioDub(WavSource(audio))
hd2sd(OutputColorSpace="YUY2", OutputBFF=true)
Run VirtualDub
Open your premiere.avs file in VirtualDub
In VirtualDub, go to Video : Compression and select the Lagarith lossless codec
Also set VirtualDub to use Video : Fast recompress mode
Save your output to lagarith.avi
Import lagarith.avi into Encore for transcoding and authoring
Actually, I am trying to edit my mts files(1920x1080 60i) but it is running too slow on my computer if I edit those mts files directly in premiere. Therefore, I converted those mts files to m2v and wav. Should I try edit those m2v files in premiere and export the whole DVD version to m2v again. Then, use the DVD m2v file to convert that to avi file by using the VirtualDub ?
However, I tried to edit the m2v and wav files in premiere and send it to encore with the mpeg2 blu-ray with 1920x1080i 29.97 High Quality. It then burned it on the DVD. It turned out the same as the VirtualDub version. I think it is less time spending compare to VirtualDub. Let me know if I am wrong.
Another thing that I tried was using the lagarith.avi file but it is 720 x 480 then I imported to the premiere and edited it. My project's setting was AVCHD 1080i30 which my video camcorder setting is. After I edited my project in premiere, I sent it to the encore to burn on the dvd by setting to the mpeg2DVD option. However, I played it on my hd dvd player and the output was pretty small.
My goal is to use premiere to edit the files and use encore to add some features such as title pages or buttons. Then, burn it on the DVD with the HD quality.
Please help ! thank you very much guys !

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1) Does this work for converting .MTS files?
2) If so, I download the Encoder presets, but where do I place them? (I didn't see any .epr files in the root of /encoder
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Download these Adobe Media Encoder CS4 presets for 100Mbps MPEG-2 I-frame 4:2:2
Export your 1440x1080 60i timeline using the corresponding preset from the ones above; this will create a (very large) .m2v file and .wav file
Now some freeware tools to get the conversion done properly:
Download and install the Lagarith lossless codec
Download and install VirtualDub
Download and install AviSynth
Download and install my hd2sd() conversion package for AviSynth (instructions for installation are in the .zip file)
Create a new blank text document in notepad, like such, and save this file as premiere.avs, and save it to the same folder as your .m2v and .wav file (edit the video and audio parameters to match your filenames). This is your "script" file for AviSynth:
video = "myfile.m2v"
audio = "myfile.wav"
FFMpegSource(video)
(audio == "") ? last : AudioDub(WavSource(audio))
hd2sd(OutputColorSpace="YUY2", OutputBFF=true)
Run VirtualDub
Open your premiere.avs file in VirtualDub
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Also set VirtualDub to use Video : Fast recompress mode
Save your output to lagarith.avi
Import lagarith.avi into Encore for transcoding and authoring

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Shane's Stock Answer #3: How to output lossless Quicktime movies
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I have just finished a movie in iMovie HD 5, and now I am wondering how can I get the best possible quality when converting this project into a movie and then making a DVD?
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I import video from data DVDs and regular DVDs and edit the videos in iMovie. In the past, I've always used MPEG Streamclip because it can read the native DVD VOB format. I then use the "Export to DV" option in MPEG Streamclip which exports a .DV file readable by QuickTime or iMovie. These are large files, but it is my understanding that this is best quality for editing.
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It does take about twice as long to export this way, and the files are about 75% larger - so is this worth the effort to export this way?
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Hi Shane,
Boy, I'm glad I got you! I read you all the time! OK, I "think" you're agreeing with me, that I'm doing it as good as it can be! Just to confirm, when I'm done a a show, I put the input and outputs in the timeline. I then go to the "FILE" menu at the top, drop down to "EXPORT" then go over to "QUICKTIME MOVIE" - and select it. Then in the next box that comes up, I leave it set (as defaulted) to SETTINGS: "Current Settings". This then creates a Self Contained movie - which plays in QT at about 30 mbits/sec. So this IS the best way to do this?
This IS the way you're talking about, right?? And even though the Prores approach is saving it at a playback at 40 mbits/sec - the quality of the movie watching it on a standard TV or on my MacBook Pro won't be any different (or perceived any differently?) Sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm grilling you . . . I just want to be sure I understand you, and am doing it right.
If this is right . . . what's with this article?
http://www.dvcreators.net/how-do-i-export-for-dvdsp-or-idvd/
I "think" you're disagreeing with it?
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I edited a music video that was shot with the canon 5D dslr so I have 29.97 fps 1080 HD footage. I want to export the highest possible quality so I can have a "master" to mess with color correcting and then bounce several different formats for various purposes (vimeo, cable tv, dvd etc). I have read that I shouldn't use the "match sequence settings" option or or the h264 either. Anybody know the best way? Thanks in advance.
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Hi there - I need to make a short video clip for a website - the final version that I send needs to be 340x192 and 1mb per 10 sec. The clip is 200 seconds so it should therefore not be over 20 mb. The original footage was shot on an EX1 camera.
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Quality - 100%
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> The image looks terrible ... wondering if there is a better way to do this?<
The reduction ratio you are attempting is almost 400:1, +-10% or so. Just so we're clear, the HD image is more than 2,000,000 distinct pixels in every frame, your frame size is about 68,000 pixels. That's 1/30 of the original size so, even before you add the quantization of the H.264 compression, you are throwing away 29 out of every 30 pixels that appeared in the original image.
I should imagine the quality is going to look horrendous, not merely terrible, compared to the original.
H.264 adds compression artifacts by averaging temporal and spatial differences, further diminishing the literal quality. You tend to see H.264 as better than, say, MPEG2 because the artifacts inherent in the processing are hidden better.
So that's the arithmetic because I can't tell if you understood that, forgive if you already know that stuff. Let's move on.
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What do you hope to improve?
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Hello everyone,
I'm Paul. I was working on a HD PROJECT 1920 by 1080 30p 50mbps. I export it is using h.264 codec which produce mp4 file in pr pro cs6. When I import it in encore and export to DVD. The quality gets so dull and blurry compare to other DVD. I did not make any changes, just import and burn. It would be very helpful if some one can suggest highest quality possible settings for DVD. I even exported my project to mpegdvd. Then tried burning it with Nero 11. Every time I get error message saying, " some of the files cannot be written on the disc" and the quality is even worse if I use encore with this file. Today, I gave a try to Amrisoft DVD creator and the quality was awesome. I did nothing just imported mp4 and it burned it on the DVD. But I want to use encore since I bought the the whole production package. Thank you.

You do realize, don't you, that H.264 isn't a supported CODEC on DVD? Blu-ray, yes. DVD, no. And the top bit rate for DVD is 9.8Mbps IIRC, but a more practical limit is in the 7-8Mbps range. Maximum resolution is 720x480 in NTSC contries, and 720x526 in PAL countries, again IIRC.
So if you are coming to a DVD with 1920 x 1080 30p source at 50Mbps, a lot of information gets thrown away to make a DVD. Maybe 90% gets trashed. So it shouldn't be surprising that the resulting video looks "dull and blurry" in comparison. It should if you're only looking at 10% of the source data.
When I've done work something like this -- making DVDs from HD sources -- I typically set AME for MPEG-2, a max bit rate of around 8Mbps, a target of around 7Mbps, and let AME do the down-sampling and re-encoding as it will. The resulting DVD looks pretty good to me. Not anything like as good as a blu-ray, but played in an upscaling blu-ray player it looks reasonably good.
Now, it is possible to export small amounts of HD source (less than about 15 minutes worth) to DVD in blu-ray format. DVD players will choke on it since it's a foreign format, but some blu-ray layers will play it. Looks just like blu-ray for the short time that it will play. I've never done this myself though so I can't tell you how to do it.

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