Bildimport in After Effects - Frage zu PAL D1/DV

Hallo,
ich habe eine für mich wichtige Frage, welche ihr mir hoffentlich beantworten könnt. Es geht quasi um eine Bilder-Slideshow mit Effekten.
Zur Erklärung:
Ich habe eine Komposition D1/DV PAL. Wenn ich ein Bild importiere, welches die gleiche Größe wie die D1/DV-Komposition hat, erhält dieses footage automatisch das Pixel-Seitenverhältnis 1,09. Wenn ich ein Bild importiere, welches eine andere Größe hat, erhält das footage das Pixel-Seitenverhältnis "Quadratische Pixel". Soweit so gut, jetzt ändere ich einfach manuell bei jedem Bild von "Quadratische Pixel" auf "1,09", aber danach ist das Bild leider etwas verschwommen. Das Bild welches meine Bühnengröße hat, ist jedoch um einiges noch schärfer. D.h. für mich After Effects ändert anscheinend an dem Bild mehrere Einstellungen als nur das Pixel-Seitenverhältnis. Gibt es nun eine Möglichkeit einfach alles mit den D1/DV-Einstellungen zu importieren, da sich in meinem gesamten Projekt alles darum dreht.
Ja ich weiß, man kann die "interpretation rules.txt" bearbeiten, jedoch bin ich mir hier nicht ganz sicher, was ich da genau ändern müsste, damit es auch klappt, das hat es nämlich bisher nicht.
Ich hoffe ihr könnt mir helfen.
Schöne Grüße
Andreas

Wenn du das Pixelseitenverhältnis änderst wird das ganze Bild natürlich etwas verzerrt, was warscheinlich deine "unschärfe" ist.
Wie siehts denn aus wenn du alle Bilder in PS via Stapelverarbeitung umwandelst und dann in AE importierst?
Gruß

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