Bootcamp on Thunderbolt SSD drive fails

iMac 27 2011 with latest Lion installed
I switched a while ago to ssd using thunderbolt because the intern hd was waayy to slow. For this i'm using 256gb samsung SSD via Thunderbolt cable (Seagate goflex). So far it works fantastic for my purposes. I also have a bootcamp partition (on the 1TB disk) installed to play games. Because the performance of it ***** bigtime (again the 1TB hd) i thought installing bootcamp on the SSD drive instead of the 1TB disk.
Thus i removed bootcamp from HD, unmounted the HD drive so bootcamp cant find it. After this i keep getting that the SSD disk isnt journaled (it is). Made some searches via google but coulndt find the right answer.
So my question.. Is it possible to install Windows (via bootcamp) on the same SSD disk which is connected via Thunderbolt and being used as my main OS.
Thanks!
ps. in the screenshot the SSD drive has 2 partitions, i made this by connecting the ssd thunderbolt to my macbook pro and using disk utility

no one?

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YOU looked for a quick fix and found none and all the brick walls.
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I have an iMac late 2012 (27" with GTX680MX - i5)
I installed windows bootcamp on the internal Fusion-drive at first - it worked fine, but the performance was too slow.
So I invested in an external thunderbolt SSD.
After installing Windows 8 on this (leaving a 20 gb partition on the fusion-drive), windows starts up fine.
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I have done two complete re-installs ... same issue.
I updated SSD firmware... same issue.
I have tried to set windows to high performance and PCI-E to not use power safe.... no luck.
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I thought that since tunderbolt is based on PCI-E it would behave the same way as an internal drive.
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