BPEL queuing mechanism?

Hi,
We have an integration project where we need a queuing mechanism. Transactions come in during the day. Some of them should be transformed and routed to one of the target systems, but some of them need to be paused and first be routed during the evening/night. Which options do we have in BPEL? We could use the Wait Activity, but what if we have thousands of waiting transactions? Are there other options?
I was thinking about using an AQ queue, but if BPEL has something we can use I rather use that.
Regards
Pete

Thanks Pete. I would go with Pete's suggestion.
Pete,
For your case, the main overhead is dehydration and loading the instance..you can tweak the minBPELWait property in domain.xml so the engine won't dehydrate for smaller waits.. instead it would do thread.sleep( ). the default value is set to 2 seconds.
<property id="minBPELWait">
<name>Minimum BPEL activity wait seconds</name>
<value>2</value>
<comment><![CDATA[
This property sets the minimum BPEL activity wait.
If the wait time for a wait activity or an onAlarm branch of a pick activity is less than the value defined here, the wait is ignored. This property is only applicable to durable processes. The default value is 2 seconds.
]]></comment>
</property>

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