Burning in Brazil: PAL or NTSC?

I'm making a dvd with iDVD for my girlfriend to play in her dvd-player in Brazil. In the "Projectinfo" window, I see that I can/have to choose between either the PAL or NTSC format. Which one I have to use? I know that in Europe the system is PAL and I think in Brazil it's NTSC, but I'm not sure. And it's kind of a present for her birthday, so it would be a pity if the disc doesn't play on the big day. Any help appreciated!
bye, Joost

Brazil uses PAL-M
http://www.high-techproductions.com/pal.htm
but even if you send her an ntsc copy it should work fine in most newer pal DVD players (most of which play both pal and ntsc) ... Hope this is Helpful & Good luck.

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Most PAL DVD-player can playback NTSC (old TV = Black/White)
Few NTSC DVD-player can playback PAL
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