Business Area vs Business Place

Dear All,
Does anybody know if there is any relationship or configuration between business place and business area? l did not find anything in customizing. Also, when l run FS10N GL report, l see that the business place does not reflect in all open items with doc type AF (depreciation) as well as SA (GL) docs. Would you happen to know why this that happen?
Thanks in Advance

Hi,
There is no direct linkage in business place and business area.
Business place is assigne to plant for mainly VAT related reporting for some countries. Whereas Business Area can span across multiple company codes to have the internal purpose balanced financial statement.
For getting business place mandatorily, you need to define a validation in OB28. (Search SDN for detailed step. It is available in SDN.)
For updating the business place in MM related document, you can use the transaction J1INPP. For FI document, can not be corrected for business place.
Regards,
Gaurav

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2. Business area in the "VAT line Item" to be defaulted from its relevant "Material / Expense/ GR/IR Line item".
The same thing i have done in FB60 transaction by using a BADI. But the same BADI is not working for MIRO.
What the BADI does it goes and updates the BSEG table for the fields "Bupla (Business Place) & GSBER(Business Area).
But while doing MIRO the BSEG table is not called at all and hence the BADI which is used earlier is not able to update the fields and hence cannot be used.
I feel the reason could be that while doing MIRO the BSEG table is not called directly but it is called through a Function Module. In such case a BADI will be required which will call the relevant Function module.
Need your help in how to update the VAT Line Item's Business Place & Business Area in the MIRO document.
Will award points if issue is resolved or if your answer is useful.
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Hi
Try using substitution maintained in FI.Transaction code OBBH.
Maintain the prerequisite based on the Transaction code.
Copy the same logic used in BAdi for the exit created.
We have used this for similar type of requirements
Award points if useful
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We are going to make substitution for business palce and section type at line item level.But after defining prequisite , when we go for insertion of substitution field then we not finding field for business place & section type respectively.
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Edited by: Dharmveer Vishwakarma on Mar 2, 2009 8:08 AM

Hi Dharma,
If you want get those business palce and section type fields as substitutions .You have check this Program VWTYGB01 in SM30.
In that select Maintain button and Remove the Exculde Flags in which you want selected fields like BSEG-BUPLA,BSEG-SECCO( business palce and section type )
May be this information is useful to you
If you have any doubt feel free to ask
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Hi there
What is the difference between Business Area and Business Place.
I know that Business place is used in Tax. But again, how it is used. What is the purpose of Business place in tax
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Hi
please go throught the follwoing site
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/FIBUSI/FIBUSI.pdf
Business place
Definition with example
Business Place
Use
In Taiwan, the business place is used for value-added tax (VAT) reporting and Government Uniform Invoice (GUI) document numbering.
Structure
In Taiwan, the tax authorities assign each sales office a GUI registration number and a tax registration number. In Country Version Taiwan, the business place corresponds to the company sales office and, in Customizing, it is the organizational unit to which you assign the two tax numbers. By making these settings, you establish the business place in the system as the entity registered with the authorities that is responsible for issuing GUIs and submitting VAT returns.
You define the business place in Customizing for Cross-Application Components:
General Application Functions ® Cross-Application Document Numbering ® Taiwan ® Define Business Place
If your company has more than one business place located in Taiwan, you can choose to file your VAT returns centrally, whereby it is the main business place that files the VAT returns on behalf of all business places. If this is the case, you have to specify the main business place in Customizing. You do this in Customizing for Financial Accounting:
Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Company Code ® Enter Global Parameters
Select the relevant company code and choose Additional details. In the field Business place of head office, enter your main business place. After you have done this and you have created your VAT media file, the system displays the tax numbers of the main business place in the media file, and not those of the individual business places.
Integration
If you are working with Sales and Distribution (SD), you need to assign the business place to a sales office in Customizing for Cross-Application Components:
General Application Functions ® Cross-Application Document Numbering ® Taiwan ® Assign Business Place to Sales Office
This setting allows the system to derive the business place from the sales office when you post a document in SD.
However, if you are working with Accounts Payable (FI-AP), Accounts Receivable (FI-AR) or Materials Management (MM), the business place is not associated with any other organizational unit beyond the company code and therefore you have to enter the business place yourself.
We recommend that you maintain your user profile and default your business place to parameter ID_BUPLA (if you are using complex posting transactions, default your branch to parameter JEA). This allows the system to copy the relevant business place to the transactions with which you are working and so reduce the risk of error.
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Can any one please tell me the way of writing subtitution for business place.
For example if I put Business area 1000 then system will take the Business place as KOLK or if I put Business area 2000 then system will take the Business place as DELH.
It will be very helpful for me, if anyone give me the details answer. As thanks points will be assigned.
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Dear Sajib,
You need to do the following substitution.
Please make use of the botton options available in the substition screen of entering the following.
First you need to mention to which transaction it should apply, then enter what is the check and what should be the result.
Sample is below:
Substitution 1
Where :-     If T- Code = ( MIRO OR FB60)
Check :-      IF Business Area = 1000
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Substitution 2
Transaction :- ( MIRO OR FB60)
Check :-      IF Business Area = 2000
Result :-       Business Place = DELH    ie, ( BUPLA = DELH)
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We have centralized TDS in Mumbai, Centralized Excise in Nasik, Decentralized VAT State wise (At present , only Maharashtra).
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Hi,
Business place/Section Code is primarily used in deriving tax reports.
In India, the section code tells the system under which TAN the item was posted, and thus which TAN has to declare it in its tax statement.
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Error in Updating Business Place in MM documents

Dear Experts,
I have 2 Questions..
Q1. I have created a subsitution rule for updating business place and section code in documents and it's working fine for FI documents but business place and section is not updating in MM documents (MIRO) . Please suggest
Q 2. When I am trying to update business place in MM invoices with t. code J1INPP it's giving me below message.
Please suggest how to resolve this and is there any negative impact of updating business place in MM documents ?
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No Financial Accounting document found
Message no. F5863
Diagnosis
No financial accounting document was found under application type '', application key '' and '' and logical system ''.
System Response
Note from financial accounting
Procedure
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Hi Ansh,
You are facing this issue because of Business place already exist in BSEG table. It is update through substitution rule.
Just create new program by copy the program "J_1IEWT_UPDATE_FI_FOR_BUPLA"
Mention here your own logic that System check Business place and delete BP from documents and after that update new business place.
Regards
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"Business Place for document could not be determined".
Could any body please help me to solve this problem.
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1. T-Code: J_1IEWTNUMGR
UN04 SC04 194C 02
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Thanks for you replay. I checked in table, data available in the table J_1IEWTNUMGR against Company code, Business place and Off Key.
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Hi Prachi,
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1. You create & print challans Business placewise using the respective Business Places Maha, Del etc.
2. You create a substituion rule whereby all Business places posted by you is substituted by 1000 Business place. This is a bit difficult and needs to be tried out.
Thank You.

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