Business Rules - Calc Manager vs AAS

Hi All,
one more question - 1. On 11.1.2 - Ours is a classic planning application and which one is preferable to maintain business rules between Calc Manager and AAS? Please share your thoughts.
Thanks,
Praveen

Well the future direction is calc manager even if you are not a fan of it, so maybe it is worth investing the time using calc manager as you are using the latest version.
Classic business rules will no doubt fade away over time.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

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