Business Rules with BPEL or ADF

Hi,
My requirement is :
We have to migrate records from one DB table to another DB table.
And we have to apply Business Rules on those records while they are on there journy from source DB to target DB.
We have two choices to achieve this:-
1) Use BPEL process and Tranform Record from Source to Destination by applying Business Rules
Or
2) Develop ADF application and use business rules SDK to fetch the Rules and apply them to Tranfer Data from Source DB to Traget DB.
Can anybody suggest the better approach on this.
Thanks & Regards,
anvv sharma

You may want to provide more information on your use case. The way I read this is that neither product would suite your use case. This looks more like an ETL solution, therefore ODI may be a better play.
Is this a one off exercise?
How big is the payload?
what are the examples of the business rules?
Are the business rules dynamic?
cheers
James

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I have some questions regarding integration of JHeadstart and Oracle Business Rules and Oracle BPEL Process Manager. As a matter of fact I don't have any work expriences with these tools so my questions may not be good and precise.
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Create a project with BPEL composite
Now drag a business rule
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Samir,
I don't see any answer for your post.
Did you find a solution. I would be interested to know as how to integrate business services in JDE with BPEL/SOA 10g or 11G.
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