Business use of bypassing sourcing cockpit
Hi experts,
In which scenario, 'process purchase order in draft' is used instead of sourcing cockpit? What are the benefits in such cases?Personally, I donot see much of any benefits here. Say, a shopping cart with three items have been ordered. If we configure 'sourcing not carried out' for three items, the ordered shopping cart will result in three purchase orders in draft stage. Even if all three items could have been sourced from the same supplier, we now cannot bundle it together to create a single purchase order.
Your thoughts and feedback are highly apprciated.
Thanks and regards,
Ranjan
Hi,
The business case for not using the sourcing cockpit would be as follows:
You are using catalogs, where prices, vendors and contracts all come with the item and there is no need to search for these via the sourcing cockpit.
There is a difinite source of supply, ie you can use Vendor lists where you have a predefined list of vendors that you wish to
source your items from...then the source is already found and again no need for sourcing cockpit.
In the shopping cart itself there is a Source of Supply tab where you can search for all valid sources of supply, ie, vendor, contract etc. So this is like a mini sourcing cockpit, the sources found would be the same in the SC as in the Sourcing Cockpit. So there then would be no need to send the item to the sourcing cockpit.
Like above also you can still use the Grouping report to group any items your wish to group in the same PO.
Also please see note 1380879, where it lists all splitting critieria on why your items would split into different PO's, normally if all criteria are the same then no split happens and one PO would be created for multiple items.
The benifits of using the sourcing cockpit would be more flexibility:
You can create different kinds of follow-on documents eg. PO, Contract, Bid Invitation.
With the Bidding option there is a negotiation side of things where your vendors can submit their prices etc. This would suit some customers.
All customers needs are different, this is why you can choose to use this or not.
I hope this helps with the decision process.
Kind Regards,
Lisa
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Hi Experts,
I am having 2 general qustions :
1. ) What is sourcing Cokpit and what are the things that we can done from sourcing cockpit.Please explain in detail.
example : what i knw abt sourcing is...... It means from where we are going to source our material means vendor.
My idea is to know everything abt sourcing cockpit.
2. ) In SRM 7.0 what is the Busniess rule framework concept and if i need to configure a BRF approval process with respect to Shopping cart and a Purchase order in Extended classic scenario then how do i need to move ahead.
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SunnyHi,
Q no 1:
Sourcing Cockpit is an area from where you can source the requirements..There are two ways by which sourcing can be done.
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Service requirement without part number
2. The shopping cart created in SRM can be converted to sourcing.
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you can get all the requirements.
From this you can convert it to Purchase order,contract,Auction. Bid invitation.
Q. no 2 :Business Rule Framework.(BRF)
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Workflow for Approval process for P.O ,Contract,Bid invitation can be done.
If you are SAP ABAP person they you can confugure this .Normally ABAP person will do this.. Please go to S ID and get the
details there for Business rule framework
Just check in this forum in Search you can get more details and notes
go to Google.com and enter business rule framework you get more material
check this link
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-rules-management?rid=/webcontent/uuid/d00df7db-c783-2b10-aa97-ccfeacc19fcb [original link is broken]
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Gurus,
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assume that my buyer is incharge of the sc
1.requestor creates a sc and buyer also create a PO from the cockpit.
2. later business decides some thing wrong so buyer deletes the same PO
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6. if i were buyer which i really deleted the same PO , i dont want to see the the same sc again into cockpit.
sap has any flexible options ?
7. any customers reported to sap this is a problem or incidence.
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We are using SRM 5.0 extended classic scenario.
We are having a requirement to restrict the work items in sourcing cockpit based on the purchaser user id, i mean particular SC's should be visible to particular users only..
Is there any BAdI or any other procedures to restrict the display.
Thanks in advance,
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You can easily do this by implementing the badi "BBP_WF_LIST" for the object type SOCO.
Here is the documetation of the BADI -
BBP_WF_LIST
Short Text
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With the Business Add-In BBP_WF_LIST , you can tailor the
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Standard settings
The following methods are available:
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To distinguish between the worklists and search results lists of the SRM Server applications, the BAdI is implemented dependent on the following filters:
BUS2201
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BUS2203
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BUS2205
Filter value for the search results list in invoice processing in SAP Enterprise Buyer
BUS2121
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BUS2200
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BUS2000113
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Activities
Implement and activate the BAdI if you wish to adapt worklists and search results lists.
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Example
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You can exclude bid invitations from a certain product category, for example, from the purchaser's search results list in SAP Bidding Engine.
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Further notes
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Change message text generated from Sourcing Cockpit
Hi,
This is the scenario where the Buyer completes the Shopping Cart (complete requirement) from the Sourcing Cockpit. After this, the Shopping Cart is removed from the Sourcing Cockpit and also the system sends an email notification to the requestor of the Shopping Cart stating that the purchase department cannot procure the item.
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Best regards,
Maggie -
Sourcing cockpit - customer columns in worklist.
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Which SRM version are you using ? Where you have added the fields - At Item level or Header level ? Are they appearing in the Extended Search functionality ?
Please ensure that the Append and Include table structures are activated carefully and also send the screen shots as well.
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<u>Some useful SAP OSS notes -></u>
<b>
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675800 - Business partner enhncmnt in EBP4.0 data on maintenance scrn
458591 - User-defined fields: Preparation and use
Note 632982 - Generation of the screens for the sourcing
</b>
Have you raised any OSS message with SAP yet ?
Do let me know.
Regards
- Atul -
Hi Gurus,
Step 1) Create Shopping cart
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Step 4) Now in sourcing cockpit
At this point assume there are about 1000 requisitions in the sourcing cockpit.
I understand that the person with the necessary access needs to find a source.
But I want to assign these requisitions (i.e. no SOS requisitions) to MANY business users to take action. Are there any criteria (for example by purchasing group etc?) to assign the responsibility to MANY business users?
Pls. advise me.
With regards,
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Once source of supply is not there - shopping cart will go to worklist of the purchaser as assigned in the 'Purchasing group' during creation of shopping cart - this process is standard SRM process.
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BBP_PGRP_ASSIGN_BADI.
Regards,
Shiv -
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> PGroup A1
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SNI figured it out.
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Mike, -
Hi Gurus,
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Form: CREATE_FOLLOW_ON_DOCUMENT of program SAPLBBP_SOCO_APP
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Hi forum gurus,
We are implementing SRM 5.5 SP 9 in extended classic mode. We have implemented sourcing cockpit too.
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However, the system still allows the PO to be created, despite the error message being visible prior to clicking on the 'Create Purchase Order' button.
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NickHi,
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BR,
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Pls reward full points for useful answers. -
PO split in sourcing cockpit ? :-(
Hello my helpful friends.je.je
I have quick question for the SRM gurus:
In the sourcing cockpit, I selected 20 items (per example) and the application splits those items among 2 purchase orders.
What is the reason of this behavior ? I know that ebp separates direct and indirect materials. But in this case everything is indirect.
Is there any field that may cause a PO split ?
Thanks and regards from Mexico !
diegoFollowing is the criteria which is used to split POs
For Backend Purchase Orders
Company Code
Purchasing Org
Purchasing Group
Document Type
Vendor
Subtype (Direct/Hierarchy)
FI Logical System
Logical System from where an External Requirement comes
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Delivery Address (for higher releases)
Procument Card Number
Procurement Card Company
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Assigning a source of supply in sourcing cockpit not working.
Good day Gurus,
When we assign a source of supply in sourcing cockpit we get the following error : Invalid combination of sources of
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This is how we got the error.
Create a shopping cart and approve it.
Go to sourcing cockpit and in the comntract column enter the contract number and in the contract item enter the contracts item number,when click enter we get the error as indicated below.
Please assist,Your help is very much appreciated.
kind regards,
Lethabo KgatlaHI Anamika,
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The Shopping cart not appearing in the sourcing cockpit of the buyer
Hi
We are using Extended Classic Scenario. The SC was created in SRM and then after approval was send to a central buyer for sourcing. The central buyer redistributes the same to the respective Buyer based on the purchasing group. However the SC doesnt appear in the sourcing cockpit of the actual buyer and when I see the details of the SC item in BBP_PD, I see that the Sourcing Relevant Indicator is marked 'Y' which means Sourcing is already completed. But nowhere a supplier has been added to the SC by anyone and it also doesnt reflect in the BBP_PD.
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