BW Landscape synchronization question

Hi, Guru
We have two BW DEV and QA systems in the system landscape: BWD & BWQ is the project phase1 (finance) D & Q system, respectively. BCD & BCQ is the phase2 (supply chain) D & Q system, respectively. Phase 1 and 2
share a single production system BWP.
Phase 1 is already live for over a year, but there is discrete
enhancement work done over the time in BWD & BWQ environment.
Phase 2 work is done in BCD/BCQ environment. Phase 2 is going live soon. We are attempting to consolidate the two landscapes into one after phase2 go-live. This way only need to maintain one D & Q system from that point on.
The decision is to keep BWD and abandon BCD since phase 1 is more critical. So we are planning to MANUALLY RECREATE all phase 2 work in BWD, this include everything:
infoCube, ODS, update rule, process chain, infoPackage, user exit, queries, etc...After that BCD, the original development system for phase 2, will be removed from the landscape.
Phase 2 work is to be transported to production from BCD-BCQ route.
The concern we have now with this approach is that we are afraid of transport for future enhancement work for phase 2, which will be done on top of the manually created objects in BWD, won't work. For example, even objects are now recreated and look exactly same, they are going to bear different IDs in BWD than BCD. Would transport work then?
There may be other things we have not considered yet? Is this approach feasible?
We know it is a rare case (rebuilding development system beneath Q and P). But has anyone done this before? can anyone foresee a problem with this approach? Remember it is BW, not R/3. Thanks.

Hi Latha ,
Normally we would do a Prod system Copy to Dev' and then start the upgrade. Also ensure that you make a GAP analysis of all Inactive objects and unused objects and delete them on DEV system using a transport request and move it to Q and prod, before you start the upgrade.
We followed this recently in our project for upgrade and it worked fine for us.
Cheers
Raja

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hey all, I have an interesting synchronization question to ask you.
Suppose that I have 20 tasks and 8 worker threads, each worker is assigned a task by the main thread, and then main thread suspends until one worker has finished its task. Then main thread create another task and handles to a new worker thread until all tasks are finished.
so code in main thread is something like this.
boolean has_more_task, has_more_worker;
do {
              if (has_more_task && has_more_worker)
                           * create new thread and assign it a new task
              else if ( has_more_task && !has_more_worker)
                        wait();
               else if ( !has_more_task && has_more_worker)
                          wait();
} while (has_more_task || has_more_worker)the problem is that I don't quite familiar with synchronized key word. so I don't know how to share a synchronized vaiable between main thread and worker thread. can anybody do me a help?
Remember that main thread should be waken up by either of the 8 worker threads !!

you can follow producer consumer conept
create a queue. main thread will push task in queue.
and worker threads will consumer task from queue.
you just need to synchronize operation on queue.
when there is no task in queue then worker thread will notify to main thread and
will call wait().
then main thread again put the more task in queue and send notification signal to worker thread and then call wait().
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After reading the Planning Guide - System Landscape Directory, I am left with a question.
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PI 7.31
PI Instances: DP1, QP1, PP1
PI Business Systems: DE1CLNT100, QE1CLNT100, PE1CLNT100
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Reading through the Planning Guide, the recommendation (pg. 45, picture below) seems to be to have all systems self-report to PP1. That is, without synchronization, only PP1 knows about any systems because they all report to PP1 and do not report in to their local SLDs. The data is then sent back to DP1 & QP1 via bridge forwarding. Business Systems are manually entered into their respective local SLDs, but then have to be manually exported/imported from DP1 --> QP1 --> PP1. Once it's all gathered into PP1 again, all data is pushed to SolMan's SLD on SP1 via a unidirectional content synchronization.
If I read this correctly, then all SLD's will end up "knowing" all systems and business systems: e.g. the sld of DP1 will have entries for QP1 and PP1 and for business systems QE1CLNT100 and PECLNT100.
Earlier in the guide, I gathered that there was value in not having all of the data in Development in that there is then clear separation between non-production SLDs and production SLDs. The above recommended setup seems to go against this idea of separation. Plus, it requires a significant amount of manual upkeep.
As an alternative (pictured below), what if each environment only reported to it's local SLD (DE1 --> DP1, QE1--> QP1, PE1--PP1). (Note that in the picture the SLD is drawn separate, but I've heard that most customers run their local SLD on PI, so the SLD depicted in each environment actually runs on the PI system in this scenario.) Further, what if the SLD's then synchronized sequentially in a full unidirectional content sync fashion. (DP1 does a full uni-directional Content Sync to QP1, QP1 does a full uni-directional Content Sync to PP1, and PP1 does a full uni-directional Content Sync to SP1.)
DP1 would only know about it's own systems. QP1 would know about it's own plus DP1 (which it needs). PP1 and SP1 would both have full visibility into all systems. Furthermore, the manually entered business systems would also be automatically synchronized and the whold manual export/import process could be avoided or a manual export/import could be implemented between Q and Production for safety with an automatic bridge forward of Data Supplier data.
Are there downsides to the second scenario that I am not seeing? Please comment!
Best regards,
--Tom

Although the guide states that Dev systems only needs to know about other systems in the DEV environment and QAS systems only needs to know about systems in the DEV and QAS environments and only PRD needs to know all systems, I am finding that I can't get the groups set up correctly when the DEV environment has no visibility to the QAS environment.
It seems that the recommended structure (where all systems are known in all environments) will facilitate the correct setup of the PI transports. So far, that is the biggest arguement I've been able to find against the second approach outlined above. Using full sync all the way through is also not an option if you're doing any development as any changes in the DEV system automatically flow through to PRD almost instantly. Using automatic bridge forwarding and import/export might be a usable alternative, but the recommended approach from page 41 of the planning guide does seem to have the best of all worlds.

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Hello everybody!
I have some question regarding synchronization in a servlet, and hope someone can help me.... (see example code below)...
1) The methods "getNames(), addNames(), removeNames()" need to be synchronized due to that the "names" vector can be accessed by many at the same time, right?
2) Do I need to synchronize the method "addANumber()"? why/why not?
3) Do I need to synchronize the methods "setString(), getString()" placed in the "Test" class? why/why not?
4) All "global" variables, i.e. the variables declared as object or class variable, need to be synchronized. Is this valid for servlet methods as well? For example the addANumber() method, or whatever method (that doesnt use global variables) I place in the Servlet class (ASR-class)
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TheMan
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import java.util.*;
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     public synchronized void removeNames(int pos){
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The teachers, which are responsible for the
servlet-courses that I have taken, never spoke about
the member variables, in the same way you did. They
used member variables and synchronized methods or
synchtronized code blocks to access them. They never
said that "one should not/try not to use member
variables". I can understand this in the context of using Servlets to gain understanding on some of the issues involved with multithreading. In a classroom, servlets may pose an easier laboratory (so to speak) for learning threading concepts than something like nachOS or something like that.
For example, they made a ordinary "page counter",
i.e. a counter which increases by one for each "hit"
on the page. I that example they, and I, thought it
would be a good idea to use a member variable (a int
counter), since all instances of the servlet will use
the same variable. How should one construct such page
otherwise? Local variables and databases is one way.As mentioned in an earlier post, in the real world I can think of very few reasons as to why a particular servlet may need to keep state. In terms of keeping a counter, what you would probably do is to analyze the access logs...Yes -- not a programmatic solution, but a very doable, low maintenance, and quick one. One important lesson to learn is that not all problems are best solved in code. This is probably not the right answer for a test though...
I just got a bit confused, my teachers had no problem
with member variables, but you guys recomend me to
use local variables instead. Which leader should I
follow :) ?Capitalist answer: whoever pays you :) Seriously, why not talk to your teachers about what you have learned here versus what they are teaching?
- N

Synchronize question

When programing servlet, I found out there is some concepts I do not understand very well; so would like to ask to make clear.
I have a servlet in which a service will go to database to obtain a file name; then generating file object and return back to the client.
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My first thought is to add sycnhronize key word enclosing
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What is the correct to place the key word?
I appreciate any suggestion. Thank you very much.
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Just synchronize the smallest block that updates the name.

BW Landscape Synchronization - Urgent

BW Experts
We are trying to do an upgrade to BI 7.0. We have 3 BW systems in the landscape Dev, QA and Prod. All the three systems are very different from one another. We are trying to synchronize the landscape before the upgrade.
I see 2 options:
Prod system copy to Dev
Back transport from Prod to Dev.
Can anybody give me the Pros and Cons of one over the other? What is the best practice?
Thanks for your help !
Thanks
Latha

Hi Latha ,
Normally we would do a Prod system Copy to Dev' and then start the upgrade. Also ensure that you make a GAP analysis of all Inactive objects and unused objects and delete them on DEV system using a transport request and move it to Q and prod, before you start the upgrade.
We followed this recently in our project for upgrade and it worked fine for us.
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Raja

Trying to understand threads; interesting synchronize question

Ladies and Gentlemen,
what would happen if:
class c {
public synchronized void a() {
//do some stuff
b();
public synchronized void b() {
// do some stuff
this should cause a deadlock situation, should it not? The compiler doesnt complain when I try this.
Can someone confirm if this is correct:
any class method can be synchronized; it doesnt have to be a method in a thread you ahve created. Presumable, this method and its object are being manipulated by threads, so synchronization of data is necessary. I have a program that has multiple threads. Each thread get a reference to manager object (there is one object for all the threads, not one for each). Each thread has its own instance of an analysis object. The analysis object takes teh reference to the manager object in its constructor, so the end result is mulitple threads each have their own analysis object, and all of these objects point to one manager object. I want the methods of the manager object to be synchronized to avoid read/write conflicts and inconsistencies.
Thank you in advance

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is a situation that will produce an error if one is
not careful. b is called in a, and they both require
a lock, so the processing in b cant be done while a is
running. No, I'm telling you that is not the case. You can call b() from a() because if a thread is in a() it already has the lock needed to call b(). There is no possiblity of deadlock with the code you have written.
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I find myself using static methods a lot since they are very convenient in that you don't have to instantiate an object and populate members, etc. rather its often more convenient just pass something in and get something out.
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