Can't bind server to OD, replication broken, users at some sites can't auth

Hi all,
Having a doozy of a problem with our OD at the moment, hopefully someone can help
The setup:
1 OD master and 3 replicas at head office here, all running 10.5.5 (issue also occurred in 10.5.4)
Around a dozen remote AFP & SMB file servers, all are setup as "Connected to a directory system"
Most sites are OK, but we have issues at 2 sites.
Setting each site to "Connected to a directory system" fails at the Directory Utility stage. We try and add the master (or even some of the replicas), put in the diradmin name and password, and attempt to bind, but it responds with an error after a while.
The error states that there is already a computer with this name, and prompts to overwrite. Overwriting fails also.
I did a search and found this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1245
and this:
http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=11834&highlight=lkdc
But neither tips help
Attempting to set up the 2 remote servers as replicas stops at the "Enabling Password Server Replication" stage. I can close out of the assistant at this stage and am left with a "broken" replica, which has 2 out of 3 things running:
LDAP Server: Running
Password Server: Stopped
Kerberos: Running
On the master it says "Password Service Not Found"
So it seems that setting up replicas on a different subnet doesn't work.
I've tried getting my ISP to set up a static route for the VPN tunnel, and this worked for a set of blank test servers with no extra users added to them.
Interestingly, setting a user's password to "Crypt" in WGM allows them to authenticate to the "broken replica" and access their files. Setting their password type to "Open Directory" has no luck at all.
If I jump on the server and try a password check in the terminal, I get:
AFP:
dirt -u username -p password
Call to dsGetRecordList returned count = 1 with Status : eDSNoErr : (0)
Call to checkpw(): Bad Password
path: /LDAPv3/10.10.20.1
Username: username
Password: password
Error : eDSAuthFailed : (-14090)
SMB:
dirt -a nt -u username -p password
Call to dsGetRecordList returned count = 1 with Status : eDSNoErr : (0)
path: /LDAPv3/10.10.20.1
Username: username
Password: password
Good
The master's IP is 10.10.20.1.
Users can sometimes connect via SMB instead of AFP, which is a workaround for now, but I'd like to know why this is happening.
I've tried setting the AFP server's authentication methods to Standard instead of Any or Kerberos, to no effect.
Does anyone know why these servers won't bind and won't replicate, and only allow connections if people use Crypt passwords? Is my Kerberos stuffed?

Well, I tried to demote, then promote my master with no luck. During the upgrade from Tiger to Leopard, the password service cache (or whatever it's called) was somewhat corrupted. My OD Archive failed to restore !! I had to rebuild my entire OD from scratch.
Now I have slightly less errors. My replicas joined up fine. Kerberos passwords get propagated when a password changes, but samba passwords do not. Samba working is essential as 95% of the clients machines are windows boxes. Here are a few quick tests I did:
replica1 root# dirt -m /LDAPv3/127.0.0.1 -u fred
User password:
2009-01-15 17:13:16.919 dirt[4224:10b] password is : <password>
Call to dsGetRecordList returned count = 1 with Status : eDSNoErr : (0)
Username: fred
Password: <password>
Success
replica1 root# dirt -m /LDAPv3/127.0.0.1 -a nt -u fred
User password:
2009-01-15 17:13:23.160 dirt[4233:10b] password is : <password>
Call to dsGetRecordList returned count = 1 with Status : eDSNoErr : (0)
Username: fred
Password: <password>
Error : eDSAuthFailed : (-14090)
On the master this all works fine.
The funny thing is that my diradmin account has not problem on the replica.

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    But when ever I want to delete the entry from the ldap, it pretends that entry successfully deleted but when I search for entry again its still there and when I delete it again its came out with the nullnetscape.ldap.LDAPException error result (32); matchedDN = ou=people,o=abc.org,o=abc.org.jm; No such object
    But I can't see this entry under ou=people,o=abc.org,o=abc.org but search of admin server console is showing me the entry
    Also ./imsimta test -rewrite -debug [email protected] is giving me the positive result
    When I delete the newly created suffix, I can see all those entries which was present before this new suffix created. that�s mean this delete is not effecting the original data but only the data intilized under newly created suffix and imsimta and admin console search is getting the data from original database not from the resulting database created with new suffix creation.
    Any idea why

    Jay,
    I am using Console, dose it make any difference? Indeed. Console is an unsupported method for doing user/group provisioning and modification. You should not attempt to use the console for such, as the Console is not aware of all of the object classes required for user manipulation.
    I wait for an hour to check delete was successful or
    not.
    I think we need to tackle this database thing because
    even search and imsimta looking of original database
    not the initialized data at new posted suffix.
    let me ask you one thing If in original data I just
    have the admin and msg-admin -hostname-2004.........
    entry to run the messaging server and rest all user
    data should the initialized at posted suffix for
    replication, will it work?I'm sorry, I don't understand what you just said above.
    If you truly have multi master replication set up (something I'm not expert with), then any changes you make to one ldap server will be propagated to the other. You can examine the "changelog" to confirm that.
    BUT
    If you attempt to manipulate users and groups by Console, you will be unsuccessful, no matter your ldap setup, as the console cannot be relied upon to properly provision users.
    The tool provided to manipulate users/groups is the command-line tool,
    commadmin
    You have to install Identity Server and commcli in order to do that.

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