Can't export anamorphic 16:9 to 4:3 (aspect ratio preserved by bars)

Hi,
I've been reading forums and trying different things for days now and cannot seem to export my anamorphic 16:9 sequence to 4:3 with black bars preserving the aspect ratio. I've tried quicktime conversion with "preserve aspect ratio" clicked. I've tried copying and pasting my 16:9 sequence into a 4:3 sequence, but this throws off attributes such as titles, keyframes, and clip speed. I've tried nesting the 16:9 sequence, opening in viewer, and dropping the nested clip into a 4:3 sequence, but that also messes up the audio/video/title sync (even when I've mixed down the audio. The only thing that has come close to working is exporting the whole 16:9 sequence to .mov, then reimporting the .mov into a 4:3 sequence, and then re-exporting, however, the titles are then squished (incorrect aspect-ratio for titles only, video appears correct) and the quality is diminished by the multiple exports/renderings.
Please Help!
Thanks,
Adam

I would say go with you lowest common denominator - 4:3.
Actually I have found no difference in burning a disc at 4:3 aspect ratio and 16:9 aspect ratio. They both look the same on 4:3 and 16:9 TVs. The only difference I have found are the menus. (but make sure your dvd player is set at 4:3 LB (letterbox) or the your 16:9 project will come out full screen with the sides cut off).
read here for more info
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=430920&tstart=30

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