Categories based on the level of expertise / experience

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*From now on I will not follow the posts in this topic. My last message can be found Re: categories based on the level of expertise / experience*
Franky
Hello,
I think the best would be to make categories in the forum based on the level of expertise / experience . As I can see the overall quality of the forum has decreased ... a lot.
I don't know why OPs think that volunteers are here :
- to answer non correctly interpreted questions,
- to give instant answers,
- to read the docs for them,
- to be mentalists,
- to be psychologists,
- etc...
My suggestion is to create 3 categories:
- novice (no certification & small amount of reward points)
- intermediate (OCA || no certification & medium amount of reward points)
- guru (OCM || OCP || OCA & medium amount of reward points || no certification & high amount of reward points)
(The OCM of course could be in the 4th category, but without having that many OCMs around I doubt that it would be useful.)
Lower level accounts could only read the higher level threads, higher level accounts could write to lower level threads. If a higher level OP doesn't want to physically see lower level threads, then he / she could setup this in his / her profile.
I hope that my sentences will not provoke anyone here. I've always said that "if something bothers me then I will try to change it, if I cannot then I let it be".
Franky
P.S. : I would be glad to see some tips from others as well.
P.S.2 : No flame please!
P.S.3. : SPOILER(!) In case everything fails then I will be looking for another community. So, if there are Oracle - dba - forums with community members having an average of 5-10 or more years of experience , then please don't hesitate to write the urls of these in your reply... Thanks.
Edited by: Franky on Aug 13, 2009 1:51 AM - extended

Hello Nicolas,
I think you're missing the point here: I didn't say that OCPs are "that good" or people having no certification are " that bad". No, this would be silly.
Your definition of novice is wrong, there are very knowledge people without certification (who told you a certified guy is a good DBA ?) and with very few "reward points" over here (who told you a "zero-point" guy is a bad DBA ?).
Novice on the forum would mean - no certification, no reward points = NO FEEDBACK !!!!!
Intermediate, guru on the forum would mean - certification or reward points = FEEDBACK !!!!
A community cannot rely on personal impressions like "I know that he is a good dba!" In this system everyone had to earn the status regardless of his/her job title. The community must have background information before setting the right level. If you have any tip how to setup categories, then feel free the share your thoughts.
+Same for intermediate or guru, this is a non-sense definition. I know many OCP DBA who are really novice, and again, point system here is just ridiculous.+
What do you think what would happen to those who have OCA or OCP and cannot answer anythig on their level? I will tell you - nothing. They will continue to reply to lower level threads. That's all. I don't think they would open questions on their level either, becuase it would be too embarrassing...
What is the value of 10 points taken when given a doc link ?
Why are you asking me about this? The OP should decide whether the link "worths" 10 points or not. By the way I don't think that OCPs or OCMs would ask such questions....
Well, I'm sure your thread is an open door to discuss on 1) point system on forum (again and again) 2) the value of certification (which have never meant you're a guru).
Ok, I see that the word "guru" is a splinter in your eyes. Feel free to rename it! :-) The value of the certification depends on how much effort has been put into it. If one does it by clicking here and there and everywhere and somehow it's enough to pass the exam - then I agree. If one learns, not only by reading the docs, but by working full time with Oracle itself, then I disagree.
Franky
P.S.: Once again I hope that this is going to be a proactive thread with many good thoughts. Words like "non-sense" or "ridiculous" let me believe that I'm just waisting my time here....

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