Changing startup drive

I have recently upgraded my PowerMac G5 Quad to Leopard. I have also added a drive internally and set it up as a Mirrored RAID. When I tried to boot from my backup drive which is a Firewire 800 connection it rebooted as Tiger. I finally got Leopard reinstalled and erase my Firewire drive and used Time Machine to back it up in Leopard. Now when I go to System Preferences and access startup drive my Firewire drive is no longer available as a start up disk. What happened? Is there something I need to change. I erased it because I do not want to restore back to Tiger, if I need to restore I want to do it in Leopard. Any ideas. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Your Time Machine backups are on the Firewire disk now, correct?
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You might want to review these:
Time Machine Tutorial
Time Machine 101
How to back up and restore your files
Time Machine Features
Apple - Support - Mac OSX v10.5 Leopard Time Machine
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