Changing the source system in QA
Hello All,
I just wanted a quick opinion from your experience on the following issue:
We have a ECC Dev client 20 connected to BI Dev client 20
Similarly we have ECC QA 120 connected to BI QA 120
But due to some reason we now want to connect a new ECC QA client 150 to BI QA 120 and take out ECC QA 120 totally(120 is wiped off).
I already have a lot of development transported to BI QA where the source system is ECC 120. Now if 120 dies and we pull the data from 150, what are the pitfalls to watch for?
Like all my Master data objects , DSO and Cubes still point to ECC QA client 120 but now the "actual" source system is going to be ECC QA 150.
Points,
Gaurav
You need to replicate all the data sources in BI from QA 150 and change the source system assignment to 150 instead of 120.
Also, you need to reinitilase delta for delta enabled extractors.
Two things to watch out:
1. If you dont have source system identifier, then if you happen to get records with same key, then it will overwrite. This applies to both master and transaction data.
2. For transaction data that is not delta enables, there may be a possibiltiy with which the records will get duplicated. So, better to delete the old requests before reload the data from QA150.
Ravi Thothadri
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