Character Direction Override

Windows 7, InD CS6.
We're getting a "character direction: left-to-right" override when importing Word 2003 files. I understand that there's a bunch of B.S. that comes with importing the Word files, what I'm wondering about is fixing this particular thing in InD. Oh, we're also getting an "underline color: black" override, more on that in a moment.
From what I've found on line it seems that unless you have the ME version of InD there is no way to select the "character direction" anywhere, in the find dialog or otherwise, to be able to fix this. True?
So I scripted this (VBA):
    Set InD = CreateObject("InDesign.Application.CS6")
    Set IDoc = InD.ActiveDocument    InD.FindTextPreferences = idNothingEnum.idNothing
    InD.FindChangeTextOptions = idNothingEnum.idNothing
    InD.FindTextPreferences.CharacterDirection = idCharacterDirectionOptions.idLeftToRightDirection
    InD.ChangeTextPreferences.CharacterDirection = idCharacterDirectionOptions.idDefaultDirection
    IDoc.ChangeText
However, when the above is run it doesn't only remove the character direction override but ALSO the underline color override. Why would that be?
Some of the text affected by the overrides has superscript in it as well, which, thus far, has been seems to stay. However, I'm concerned that there might be some local formatting that's going to get removed like the underlnie color is getting removed.

When you place the Word doc, are you using Show Import Options? Are you mapping your Word text to InDesign paragraph styles? Are you mapping Word character styles to InDesign Character styles?

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I've searched for Character Direction and seen mainly mentions of ME and foreign language conversions right to left and left to right. We do not use ME or any foreign language features. The behavior I'm troubleshooting for InDesign CS5 7.0.3 importing Word 2003 docs on a Windows XP macine, is as follows:
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Now I am left only with the character direction Left To Right override, which I can't figure out how to fix.
I can't find a way to set this in Word, and I can't find a way (since I don't have ME) to change it in InDesign. It is not practical for me to run a script for every import or continue to reset the overrides manually, because we simply don't have to the time, our deadlines are too tight and frequent. Plus, if we miss one, there are definite consequences, because the data is exported in a variety of formats for reuse automatically via scripts, and the override is messing up my exports.
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I hate it when I know too much about MS Word.
I don't have Word accessible right now, but you can set character direction in (the Windows version of) Word. I don't remember the exact details off-hand. Character direction is not the only overrides I've seen make its way in. I've seen some CJK features get imported as overrides as well (by users not using CJK languages).
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I keep getting an override in my Paragraph Style-menu saying: "Character Direction: Left To Right". It might have to do with the fact that I'm using styles that were created in CS3 - I'm using old .indd-files.
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G

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