CIN CIN:::::::::::::::: Rework Scenario & RG1 ::::::::::::::CIN CIN

Hello CIN experts ,
1.When 100 Nos of an FG is produced RG1 is updated ( stock up, 101)
2.When the 100 Nos of FG is sold/delivered , RG1 is updated .(stock down , 601)
3.When 50 Nos of the FG is returned from the customer RG1 is updated (stcok up , 653)
4.When the Returned FG in point 3 is reworked, it consumes 3kg of ROH that should be updated in RG23A Part 1.Also output qty of FG is not the same as the total FG qty taken for rework some of the FG is scrapped .Finally 30 Nos FG is reworked & 20 Nos are scrapped to produce 5 kg excisable scrap.
How does the scenario in point 4 be mapped in SAP , further , how are the RG1 entries updated ????????
Pls enlighten .
Regards
Anis

Dear Sanjoo ,
Thanks for the reply,
But , a material code once maintained relevant to RG1 in J!ID cannot be updated in any other register. Hence we cannot update RG23A for returns.
Further , scrap is also RG1 relevant material as it is a by product of production & NOT a Raw Material.
pls gimme how the scenario mapped ??
Regards

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How to handle this Rework Scenario.

Hello friends,
Following is the rework scenario that is in Pharma.
My client produces finish product quantity extra than required. Suppose i have order of 1,00,000 tablets. Production order is created and production is completed. Suppose for this order 1000 tablets are produced extra than order quantity. This extra production is kept in production only. In such way, for each order, extra quantity of finish good goes on increasing in production.
Suppose now i have order of 10,000 tablets and in production i have 5000 tablets that are already produced. Now i use this 5000 tablets as rework material. I want that when i run MRP system should generate order of only 5000. I do production of 10000 qty. by using 5000 rework material and 5000 order quantity.
How can i map this scenario in SAP?
Thanks

hi
Pls. find here step by step procedure for Rework Order :
REWORK HANDLING PROCEDURE
There are two way one is manual and another is with trigger point (ref operation set)
1.Create Rework order without material at CO07 with out material .
2. Assign the settlement receiver as original production order at settlement rule.
3. Assign the rework material & component if needed at rework order & assign the issue storage location (unrest- use storage location above).
4. Do the confirmation for rework order & rework material will be issued from stock to order
5. GR will not be done for rework order. To get stock for reworked material Do the GR for orginal order & settle the both order .
Another method,
1. Create a Reference op set in tcode CA11.
Enter the plant, Description, usage and status
for the ref op set
2. Create a Standard trigger point in CO31.(Ex
Production)
Enter the Trigger Point usage /Group as FERT.
3.Tick the Trigger Point Functions.
4. Enable the indicator create order with Reference .
5.Enter the system status as PCNF.
6.The system will says standard trigger point exists from which you can
select the created Trigger Point (EXx Production)and save.
7. MD02/MD04.
8. Convert the Planned Order into Production Order and Release the order.
9 .Now confirm th ops.
10. For the last op enter the yield and rework qty
and set the status as PCNF.
11. If the status of last op is PCNF then in the
system a POP UP will appear as Activited by
Trigger Point /Create order with reference/order
number/sequence and op number which trigger point
works and enter.
12. Now a rework order will be created.
13. In c003 enter the number which is next to the actual prodn order no.Rework order will be seen.
Hope this helps.

Rework Scenario

Hi All,
I am working with rework scenario, following masters are maintain for the same;
1. Trigger point t code is CO31
Setting done in std trigger poing,
a) Trigger Point usage and group - 00005 (Finish execution) and FERT
b) Trigger point funs activated
c) In Function - create order with reference, sys status - PCNF, status change - '+' status set and Once - activated
2. Assignment of std trigger point with required operation in the routing.
Now my query is,
While time ticket Partial confirmation with CO11N, after entering yield and rework qty, system is proposing rework order as per rework quantity. But while second partial confirmation of the same production order, rework order is not generated though rework qty is entered.
Plz suggest.
Regds,
Rajesh

Hi VS / Sravanthi,
I done this setting for testing n check but its not generating rework order for 2nd partial confirmation.
Plz suggest?
Regds,
Rajesh

Rework scenario devlopment

Hi sap Guru,
I have read all Previous thread Regarding Rework scenario.
I want suggestion on following scenario .
One FG(serialise) Product user do some rework it become FG1(same serialise no)
I have think that we can achieve that by creating a new production order through CO01 by consuming FG
If any body have better suggestion kindly help me to achieve this.
Thanks & Regards
Sandeep Kumar Praharaj

Hi Swapnil,
Thanks for the rply.
I have made following setting .
1. Created a new order type as per copy of PP03.
2.Configured order type dependent parameter configured with reference operation set.
3.scheduling has been done.
Through CO07 same setting works fine.
Client wants to avoid 309 movement
i Have planned liked this create a order with material (FG) through CO01
consumed (FG1) should consumed manually
at the same time BOM of (FG) should not be explode at time of creation of production order CO01
(How to do this).
Please help me how to achieve this.
Thanks & Regards
Sandeep Kumar Praharaj

How to Handle Rework Scenario

Dear Sir,
We have following scenario :
We created a Production Order (type PP01) for 1 piece of Component 'X' . The Order was confirmed using Co11n and subsequently MB31 (GR) was done for the Order . An Inspection Lot got created after the GR . During Inspection , it was found that Processed Material need some Rework and Quality Inspector posted the Compopnent under BLOCK Stock during the UD .
Now we need to start Rework on this Component . Pl guide us what steps need to be followed for completing the Rework cycle .
I have gone thru many of posting available in this forum related to REWORK , where it has been suggested to make a PP03 type Order in CO07 .
But I fail to understand that following issues in this :
a) How to issue faulty Compponent to Rework Order
b) How to clear the Stock from earlier BLOCK Stock
c) How to bring Stock back after Rework Order is confirmed and Inspected .
I request you to kindly help me pl .
Rgds
Sonia Agarwal

Here is the expalanation..
THis is how we handle the scenario in our place..
There are two types.
1. Repairing done by external persons or subcontractors..
2. Refurbishment done inside the plant.
The second is done by the production department..
The Refurbishment process is bit different from other production processes..
The Defective material is received from different locations to the stores through MIGO.
Here we will specify from and to locations of the defective Assemblies..
The TO storage location is RMMS.. Here the valuation tye is SF-DEF..
The refurbishment order is created in IW81.
Order type is PM04
In the Header, Refurbishment tab page is Important..The from to details have to given promptly(from val type defective to val type repaired)..
Then the other things are like your usual production order..
The GI is done in MB11,261 movement..(Against the order)
After the execution is done, in MIGO goods issue is done with movement 531..Receipt of byproduct. the material is now converted from DEF to REP..
Components issue has to be as followed.In the components tab , the materials to be issued has to given as usual. and the same materials has to be mentioned again as -1.It means you are taking away the defective components and adding the good ones...
Confirmation is done on IW41..
Hope the above clarifies..

REWORK FOR BATCHES

DEAR GURUS,
PLZ HELP ME IN POSTING FOR BATCHES IN SAME ORDER TYPE IN CASE OF REWORK SCENARIO WITHOUT USING THE CO01 AND CO07 T-CODES.

Hi Ashish
Can you elaborate your issue little more... If you are looking for a Rework Scenario (Work-In-Progress), Please refer the below SAP best practice.
http://help.sap.com/bp_bl604/BBLibrary/HTML/202_EN_CN.htm
Regards
Bala

REWORK IN REM

Dear Gurus,
I am working in REM scenario and i have to map rework scenario in REM.
Following is the scenario1:
1) Final Assembly got rejected in quality inspection.
2) Some rework is required on the Assembly to make it OK which requires some material and operation.
___Scenario2___
1) Final Assembly got rejected in quality inspection and it is found that it cant be repaired rather it can be dismantle and some components can be retrieved so that they can be utilized in future for the regular production and to be sent back to store department.
Kindly give your valuable suggestions to map above mentioned scenario.
With Regards.

Hi,
Rework is can not be handled in REM like that in Descrete Manufacturing.
If you have consumed additional components then do the Component Backflush.
Same for additional activity in Activity Backflush in MFBF.
If not you can have a Rework Production Order created fo this to capture the addtionl components and Activities..
Hope his helps,,
Regards,
Siva

CIN-Two Export scenarios-Duty not paid & Duty Paid

Hello SAP SD CINers,
I have a basic requirement which is that one industry exports without duty paid (which is always the case) and other duty paid which means in the Billing document & the Export Excise Invoice the Price will be statistical but the Taxes like JEXP (IN: A/R BED %) will be accounted for.
The solution as formulated by us is that we have a new series created and then all seems right but the problem here is that it is very very difficult to get a new series from Customs for different busines scenario as normally only two are sanctioned like Home consumption and for Exports.A new Shipping Point be created specially for this scenario which can then be maintained in the Excise/Series group determination but the problem here is that one needs a new Series Group to be maintained which should have utilization not clicked as normally for exports it is ticked off for no utilization but here we need to carry out utilization.Hence, the requirement for a new Series is generated.This is very difficult to convince the Authorities to sanction a new series grouop as this is normally not done.
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In Std SAP, we can have two order types for e.g. OR & RE to have the same No. range int. assignment which will cause the number maintained to find the next available number for both OR as well as RE..OR can have number "1" and RE can have number "2" & so on and so forth.Duplications dont happen here but in case of CIN Excise Invoices, this happens if we shift between Series "EX" (for export) & new Series say "S1" both of which have Object " J_1IEXCEXP" have same from -to numbers.
This problem can be easily be solved by making the changes in the source code which allows this two series groups to have the same number range and the numbers shouldn't get duplicated and the sytem should take in next available number just as this is done for Sales Orders.But that is a change, so we would request for some solution within the existing setup.
I am sure this problem must arise with almost all Indian export factories so there must be some workaround for this problem.
Kindly advice as this is very challenging scenario.In case of further queries, kindly send query for this & i will be looking forward to valuable inputs from you all regarding this.
Thanks All in advance.
Regards,
Dinesh Relwani.

Hello SAP SD CINers,
I have a basic requirement which is that one industry exports without duty paid (which is always the case) and other duty paid which means in the Billing document & the Export Excise Invoice the Price will be statistical but the Taxes like JEXP (IN: A/R BED %) will be accounted for.
The solution as formulated by us is that we have a new series created and then all seems right but the problem here is that it is very very difficult to get a new series from Customs for different busines scenario as normally only two are sanctioned like Home consumption and for Exports.A new Shipping Point be created specially for this scenario which can then be maintained in the Excise/Series group determination but the problem here is that one needs a new Series Group to be maintained which should have utilization not clicked as normally for exports it is ticked off for no utilization but here we need to carry out utilization.Hence, the requirement for a new Series is generated.This is very difficult to convince the Authorities to sanction a new series grouop as this is normally not done.
Could you CIN masters suggest something for this.
In Std SAP, we can have two order types for e.g. OR & RE to have the same No. range int. assignment which will cause the number maintained to find the next available number for both OR as well as RE..OR can have number "1" and RE can have number "2" & so on and so forth.Duplications dont happen here but in case of CIN Excise Invoices, this happens if we shift between Series "EX" (for export) & new Series say "S1" both of which have Object " J_1IEXCEXP" have same from -to numbers.
This problem can be easily be solved by making the changes in the source code which allows this two series groups to have the same number range and the numbers shouldn't get duplicated and the sytem should take in next available number just as this is done for Sales Orders.But that is a change, so we would request for some solution within the existing setup.
I am sure this problem must arise with almost all Indian export factories so there must be some workaround for this problem.
Kindly advice as this is very challenging scenario.In case of further queries, kindly send query for this & i will be looking forward to valuable inputs from you all regarding this.
Thanks All in advance.
Regards,
Dinesh Relwani.

CIN scenario

Hello, I want to MAP below scenario. Is it possible and what are the possible way to MAP using CIN
Scn1) The Indian company(TH) places an order to the Vendor for Raw material with an instruction to directly supply the goods to a sub supplier. In such a case the Vendor will raise an invoice in favour of TH a/c sub supplier or a/c customer inclusive of excise duty etc.
The sub supplier is instructed to send the material to the customer site.
In such a case there is only exchange of documents (E1 Transaction). The materials are not delivered at TH. TH passes on the excise credit to the customer. No registers are updated by TH. The excise duty paid to the vendor is passed on in the customer invoice.
Scn2) There is also a case where TH places an order for Raw material to a dealer who in turn places the order to a principle vendor (E2 transaction). Raw materials to be delivered to the customer site. In such a case too since there is no movement of goods with TH, TH cannot claim CENVAT and it passes on the duty paid to the Customer in the customer sales invoice.
How to map these two scenarios

Hello, I want to MAP below scenario. Is it possible and what are the possible way to MAP using CIN
Scn1) The Indian company(TH) places an order to the Vendor for Raw material with an instruction to directly supply the goods to a sub supplier. In such a case the Vendor will raise an invoice in favour of TH a/c sub supplier or a/c customer inclusive of excise duty etc.
The sub supplier is instructed to send the material to the customer site.
In such a case there is only exchange of documents (E1 Transaction). The materials are not delivered at TH. TH passes on the excise credit to the customer. No registers are updated by TH. The excise duty paid to the vendor is passed on in the customer invoice.
Scn2) There is also a case where TH places an order for Raw material to a dealer who in turn places the order to a principle vendor (E2 transaction). Raw materials to be delivered to the customer site. In such a case too since there is no movement of goods with TH, TH cannot claim CENVAT and it passes on the duty paid to the Customer in the customer sales invoice.
How to map these two scenarios

What are the scenarios in SAP CIN?

Hi,
I need to work on CIN.
Can you give the total scenarios on CIN on MM and SD side.
Sateesh

Hello,
Before I am going to explain what cenvat is, you have to understand the Indian tax central excise duty(BED). It is called as basis excise duty. Every manufacturer is liable to pay the excise duty in various kinds like Basis excise duty, Special excise duty, Additional excise duty etc.,
Just think over a product which is reached to an end user, how many manufacturing activities are done. So to reduce the tax burden of the end user the Govt of India has introduced the MODVAT scheme which is now called CENVAT scheme. Based on this, if any manufacturer purchased a material, which is duty paid and if it is used for his further manufacturing activity, he can avail this as credit in his book based on the central excise invoice. At the time of selling his manufactured goods, he is liable to pay the excise duty. He can adjust the credit which he has taken into his books and pay the rest.
Ex: Cenvat availed at the time of purchased various goods Rs.20,000 (excise duty) and Cenvat payable for his product at the time of sales Rs.25,000(excise duty) he will pay only Rs.5,000 through cash deposit in PLA.
A/P Module (During Purchases):
Purchase of Inventory Raw Material (100 KGs@10)     : 1,000/-
Add: Tax on Purchases (VAT or CST)           :    100/- (10% on 1,000)
                                          Total            1,100/-
Add: Excise Duty u2013 10% on 1100                110/-
Total amount payble to Vendor                  1,210/-
                         ======
NOTE : If we purchases raw material with in the state then we need to pay VAT. If we purchase raw material from other state then we need to pay CST.
1) Purchase Order u2013 ME21N : No accounting entry will be generated
2) Goods Receipt u2013 MIGO:
Inventory Raw Material A/c Dr 1,000/-
To GR/IR Clearing A/c 1,000/-
Note-1: RG23A Part-I needs to be updated in TC:J1IEX_C. Here, 100 kgs needs to be updated in this register.
Note-2: RG23A Part-II needs to be updated in TC: J1IEX_P. Here, 1,000/- value needs to be updated in this Register. The following entries will be generated.
Cenvat Reveivable A/c Dr 110/-
To Cenvat Clearing A/c 110/-
3) Invoice Varification u2013 MIRO:
GR/IR Clearing A/c Dr 1,000/-
To Cenvat Clearing A/c Dr 110/-
To VAT/CST Recivable A/c Dr 100/-
To Vendor A/c 1,210/-
A/R Module (During Sales):
Sale of Finished Product (200 KGs@10)          : 2,000
Add: Tax on Sales (VAT or CST)                           200 (10% on 2,000)
Total                           2,200/-
Add: Excise Duty                          220/- (10% on 2,200)
Total Amount Recivable from Customer             2,420/-
                                                                                =======
Note: VAT needs to be received from the customer when we sold finished product with in the state. CST needs to be received from the customer when we sold finished product in other state.
1) Sales Order: No accounting entry will be generated
2) Delivery:
Cost of Goods Sold A/c Dr
To Finished Product A/c
3) Billing:
Customer A/c Dr 2,420/-
To Sales A/c 2,000/-
To CST/VAT Payable A/c 200/-
To Cenvat Suspense A/c 220/-
4) Transfer of Cenvat suspense to cenvat payable A/c:
Cenvat Suspense A/c Dr 220/-
To Cenvat Payable A/c 220/-
5) Deposit of amount in PLA (Personel Ledger Account):
P L A A/c Dr 1,00,000/-
To ICICI Bank A/c 1,00,000/-
6) To avail cenvat credit (from purchases) and remaining amount should be deducted from PLA Deposit:
Cenvat Payable A/c Dr 220/-
To Cenvat Receivable A/c 110/-
To PLA A/c 110/-
7) VAT/CST Payable to Govt:
VAT/CST Payable A/c Dr 200/-
To VAT/CST Recivable A/c 100/-
To ICICI Bank A/c 100/-
Go through the some of following registers:
1) RG23A Part-I     : To update the quantitiy of consumable goods
2) RG23A Part-II     : To update the value of consumable goods
3) RG23C Part-I     : To update the quantity of capital goods
4) RG23C Part-II     : To update the value of capitial goods
Thanks
Para

CIN - J1IG - Import Scenario

Hi,
My client having Trading Registration.They purchase import raw material and selling the same to customer.So i have to capture excise invoice in J1IG after GRN.Here , in import scenario i mentioned zero tax code and maintained all standard tax conditon like J1CV , JADC etc.. in pricing procedure.Also maintained these conditons in Excise defualts CIN Configuration.After MIRO with customs invoice , i put GRN.When i tried for J1IG w.r.t Mat Document, system didnt pick up the excise value.
Kinldy tell me any IMG setting has to done or have to manually enter all excise duties for import scenario.
Thanks and Regards
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Hi
check following link
[Depot Import purchase Scenario;
[http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPMan/DepotActivities-+CIN]
[Taxes not getting copied in J1IG transaction;
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Import scenario - CIN

Hallo,
We are implementing SAP CIN and we have import scenario. However we are not using PO for imports, but we use only scheduling agreement for imports. So, is it possible for paying cutoms and other duties thorugh MIRO (planned delivery cost) like in PO scenario. Is this scenario through Scheduling agreement is supported in CIN for converting CVD and other duties as excise. please advise.
Thanks.

Use PO instead of Scheduling agreement. reason is, there are lots of delivery costs in case of Imports say customs duty, warehouse charges, transportation charges. Once PO history gets updated, you can't make any changes in that PO for delivery costs. And you need to change this in imports frequently. For PO, you can create new PO in such case. But for scheduling agreement, it will be a lot of headache for the user.
Think these aspects before going for SA.

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Dear Experts,
We are using TAXINN - Condition based Tax Procedure for CIN (4.7 R/3 Enterprises). Can any one please share with me, how to handle the SSI scenario in TAXINN. I am looking for feasible solution other than modifying the condition records each time.
Thanks in Advance.
Babu.

Hi
As far as SSIs are concerned, there are two schemes. Under the first, an SSI can opt out of the CENVAT scheme. In this case, they apply basic excise duty at certain flat rates on all transactions. These rates vary according to their total annual sales.
Prerequisites :
define a separate SSI status for each of the various "slabs" .
Assigned the vendor the SSI status that you have just defined

Return material to vendor-CIN scenario

Hi gurus,
1.Can i know the steps for returning the material to vendor after doing MIRO.-CIN involved
2.Returning the material to vendor after paying the vendor-CIN involved.
regards
murugan

Hello Murugan,
Awnser for 1) see as u wabt to return the material to vendor , so as u had already made a GR & posted J1iex , so first of all cancell the GRN document , then Cancell the J1iex , , Now make a return P.O for htis there is acondition that the material u want to return to vendor should lie in unrestricted stock , now as ur Return P.o is made , release it & then do GR with respect to this Returm P.O with mvmt. type = 161, as these material is being return to vendor then the outgoing tax invoice should also be prepared so to do this use T.code -> J1IS here use ref. docu type as MATD, Give GR NO, series group , here all excise duties are to be filled manually & save the invoice note down the no. of invoice, After this U have to post the invoice through -->J1IV , Now to take print out of this outgoing tax invoice u have to make a customised t.code as we have made it was --> ZRETURN here u can have print out of this invoice .
Now for 2nd Question ---> post credit memo to vendorby t.code ---> MIRO if already paid .
Pl reward for efforts , i had already gone through this case .
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Third party scenario with cin

When you create a third party billing.How cenvat determination takes place.
ex: my customer from karnataka. my vendor from andra and my place(client is from chennai.) and what are the cin changes we have to do
here on what basis tax determination and duty determination takes place.
thanks
regards

Hi,
NOrmaly third party sales process ther is no cin is involved, if goods are not comming to u it is directly ship to customer.
comming to 2 nd process cin is involved because goods are comming to your plant and then your going to ship the stocks to customer.
Thanks,
Vasu

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