CIN- E1 purchase

Hi All,
please help in understanding and configuring E1 purchase process in indian cin scenario.
thanks and regards
Ajay

dear Raghu,
I simulated this scenario , i feel the result are not ok.
I raised the PO to B ( trader) for V- belt of Rs 100. It attracts the LST of 2.5 % and 1% other tax.
I made the tax code T1 with 2.5 % LST and 1% other taxes. Therefore the value is 3.50 rupees.
Therefore my PO is of value Rs 103.50.
I did the same what you proposed.
MIGO entries:
I entered PO and on excise TAB I entered RS 16 as BED, Rs 0.32 Edu cess and Rs 0.16 as Secondary Edu cess. The following details are of accounting document posted.
Stock account= Rs 87.76 +
GR/IR= Rs 87.76
Purchase stores account= Rs 87.76 +
Purchase offset account = Rs 87.76
MIRO Entries:
Vendor B = Rs 120.06
GR/IR= 87.76 +
Stock account = Rs 16.30 +
Purchase store account= Rs 16.30 +
Purchase offset account = RS 16.30-
Cenvat input BED = RS 16
Question?
1) why the vendor account ( vendor B) is getting credited by Rs 120.06, it should be Rs 103.50 or what should be the right figure?
2) at the time of migo stock account is getting debited by 87.76 rupees.
3) Since the excise invoice is from Vendor A not from Vendor B, where will I capture VENDOR A information in MIGO.
Please simulate the scenario if possible,
We have purchase account management active, you can ignore these.
thanks and regards

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sloution1
Are you sure you are getting this when you do J1I5? You can deposit some amount to the register you are trying to update the material into through J1IH > Additional excise.
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Sloution2
If you use J1i3 tcode for creating excis einvoice then the system will go for immediate utilization of the cenvat account and if there is no enough balance ie; cenvat from purchase is less then u will end with the above error message.
So in that case we cn go for J1iin tocde for creating exciose invoice.
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and also just check out the procedure that is followed in ur company and go accordingly.
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Sloution3
Hope u r updating the RG1 register. As there is no enough balance while creating outgoing excise , do the J1IH - TR6 Challan posting or J1IH - Additional excise to take credit entries of Cenvat.
Sloution4
Check the Configuration of CIN.
IMG >> Logistic General >> Tax on Goods Movement >> India >> Business Transaction >> Utilization ....
Sloution5
The details are very clear.
what is the balance do u want to carry out.
The error clearly mentioned the avilable balance is not enought to carry out the current transaction.
Please increase the balance by either taking credit or deposting into Personal Ledger Account.
hi gurus,
while creating excise in voice using the t code j1iin
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Message no. 8I402
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sloution1
hi,
go to this path : Logistic Genral==> Tax on Goods Movement ==>India ==> Account determination == > Specify GL Acounts per excise transaction..
here u have to maintain ur Excise Grp, TR6C, Company code, chat of A/C and correct GL account.
I created a excise invoice for factory sale. While updating the register
J1I5 Update the RG 1 and Part I registers
it is not simulating. Why is there any customization setting i have to do or what?
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Sloution1
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You need to set the movement types that are relevant for various registers.
spro -> Logistics general ->Tax on goods movement -> India -> Business transaction -> Incoming excise invoices ->Specify which movement types invoilves excise invoices.
Please check that.
Sloution2
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While creating excise invoice. the invoice not picking up the value aed,bed . In billing document the condition is appearing
I put H in PR00 still it is happening like that
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Sloution1
pls check the condition type defined at the step, is it the same as used in Billing doc where the excise value is coming.
SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Determination of Excise Duty > Maintain Excise Defaults
Sloution2
You need to check two things if condition values are not copied to the excise invoice.
1. Go to Logistics General>Tax on Goods movements>India >Basic Settings>Determination of Excise Duty>Maintain Excise Defaults
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2. Go to Logistics General>Tax on Goods movements>India >Basic Settings>Determination of Excise Duty>Condition-Based Excise Determination>Classify Condition Types
Here you need to assign your condition types of BED total Ecess total and SHE cess total if you are using totals condition types. Otherwise you leave it blank.
Let me know still you have peoblem in this.
Sloution3
All Excise Component and Cess Totals (JEXT,JEAT,JEST and JECT) must have Statistical Checkbox marked in V/08.For the Condition records totals, select the Key Combination: Sales Organization with value: 100%.
Can you specify what Key combination for Basic Excise Duty (JEXP) you are using? I prefer the Country/Plant/Control Code/Material combination.
It is not out of context to mention here, that whatever your Condition Type for Basic Price (PR00 - ZPRI in my case) is, it must have the 'Condition Category' as H - Basic Price in V/06. This is an extremely important setting until made this setting,all Excise Calculations will go into a tizzy.
Check out the above and let me know.
Best regards,
Sloution4
The condition type which you are using as base value should have the condition category as H.....check this out and let me know...
Cheers
Sloution5
pls also check the configuration setting done at :
SPRO > Logistics - General >Tax on Goods Movements > India > Basic Settings
Sloution6
Thats means you need to have a balance for utilisation.
To solve this you can do one of the two things.
Create some puchase orders in MM. Whenever you purchase the excise duty is credited into your Rg23A part2. This will show in your utilisation balances in J2iun.
Or else you can post some amounts into PLA accounts in J1IH transaction using JVs.
I hope your configuration on all these accounts in LG- Tax on goods - Account determination is in place. If not you may have to do that before this.
Sloution7
If you use J1i3 tcode for creating excis einvoice then the system will go for immediate utilization of the cenvat account and if there is no enough balance ie; cenvat from purchase is less then u will end with the above error message.
So in that case we cn go for J1iin tocde for creating exciose invoice.
Then the utilization will be done at the end of the month while submitting the returns to excise authorities.
and also just check out the procedure that is followed in ur company and go accordingly.
If they wanna go for immediate utilization then check whether they have made any TR6 challan payment and do the posting in system in tocde j1ih ---tr6 challan and increase the PLA BED balance and then do J1i3.
Sloution8
are you sure you are getting this when you do J1I5? You can deposit some amount to the register you are trying to update the material into through J1IH > Additional excise.
Please check if you have set any default in the table "Utilisation determination" (SPRO >LG >India > Business transaction > Outgoing excise > utlisation determination") If you have set 100% utilisation to happen from PLA then you have to upload some balance into PLA a/c through J1IH > TR6C , else use J1IH > Additional excise for Rg23A and C.
Sloution9
Hope u r updating the RG1 register. As there is no enough balance while creating outgoing excise , do the J1IH - TR6 Challan posting or J1IH - Additional excise to take credit entries of Cenvat.
Please maintain the customizing settings for automatic utilization
Excise modvat accounts not defined for TR6C transaction and 2 excise group
Message no. 8I402
Sloution1
Go to IMG Path -- Logistics-General --> Tax on Goods Movements --> India --> Basic Settings --> Maintain Series Groups.
Here for the combination of your Series Group and Excise Registration, select the box Imm util This will solve your first issue
For your second issue, again select the next tab Account Determination and click on Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction. There maintain as follows:-
ETT::SubTmTy::::DC Ind:::::::::::Account Name
TR6C::::::::::::CR Credit::::::PONHLD PLA on hold account
TR6C::::::::::::DR Debit:::::::PLAAT1 PLA AT1 Account
TR6C::::::::::::DR Debit:::::::PLABED PLA BED account
TR6C::::::::::::DR Debit:::::::PLAECS PLA ECS Account
TR6C::::IP::::::CR Credit::::::ONHOLD CENVAT on hold account
TR6C::::IP::::::CR Credit::::::PONHLD PLA on hold account
TR6C::::IP::::::DR Debit:::::::PLAAT1 PLA AT1 Account
TR6C::::IP::::::DR Debit:::::::PLABED PLA BED account
TR6C::::IP::::::DR Debit:::::::PLAECS PLA ECS Account
TR6C::::IP::::::DR Debit:::::::RG23BED RG 23 BED account
TR6C::::IP::::::DR Debit:::::::RG23ECS RG 23 ECS Account
Once you maintained the above, click on next level Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction. Here for the combination of Excise Group, Excise Transaction Type (TR6C) and Company Code, maintain the relevant G/Ls and save.
Sloution2
Create the Excise Group and assign the Modvat a/cs.
Sloution3
go to this path : Logistic Genral==> Tax on Goods Movement ==>India ==> Account determination == > Specify GL Acounts per excise transaction..
here u have to maintain ur Excise Grp, TR6C, Company code, chat of A/C and correct GL account.
Sloution4
go to this path : Logistic Genral==> Tax on Goods Movement ==>India ==> Account determination == > Specify GL Acounts per excise transaction..
here u have to maintain ur Excise Grp, TR6C, Company code, chat of A/C and correct GL account.
STILL I AM GETTING THE SAME PROBLEM
KINDLY HELP ME
WHERE I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE FOR PLA A/C
t.code or path
THANKS AND REGARDS
munichandrababu

Hi Munichandra Babu,'
Goto J1IH and select TR6C and then select the accounts for which you want to post the amount. Enter the amount and Save. Before saving dont forget to post the cumulative accounts amount in PLA on Hold Account.
Best Regards
Sri

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