CISCO aironet 1310 integrated antenna poor range
Hi
I am in Canada
I am trying to configure an AIRONET 1310 with INTEGRATED antenna
to work as an access point for clients on a campground
The range I get is awfull (50 feet and I loose the signal completly)
the aironet is outside and no tree are blocking it.
I configured it all by default exept :
-- in network interfaces : Radio0-802.11G Setting
-- I changed DATA RATES from Default to Best Range
Hi,
1300 Integrated antenna model comes with a Vertically polarized 13dBi gain antenna. The beam width is 36° E-plane by 38° H-plane.
Following is the range -
Americas
⢠865 feet (260 meters) at 54 Mbps
⢠3465 feet (1055 meters) at 11 Mbps
ETSI
⢠150 feet (45 meters) at 54 Mbps
⢠775 feet (235 meters) at 11 Mbps
TELEC
⢠485 feet (145 meters) at 54 Mbps
⢠1095 feet (330 meters) at 11 Mbps
So the range what you are getting is way too low.
Please check the orientation of the AP, the antenna is Vertically Polarized.
So the AP should be mounted vertically.
Second make a note at the beamwidth 36° E-plane by 38° H-plane. Make sure that all your clients are only in this coverage area. If its an open area and you want coverage for client overall the area probably I won't go with this AP being a sector antenna not providing coverage in all 360° H-Plane.
HTH
-> Sushil
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The previous problem of which I started another conversation here:
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Message
type
Ethernet
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Blinking amber
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Configuration reset
Amber
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Failure
Red
Red
Red
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Firmware upgrade
Red
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Controller status
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Message
type
Ethernet
LED
Status
LED
Radio
LED
Meaning
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AIR-ANT1728
Omnidirectional
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Cisco Aironet 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Antennas and Accessories
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps469/products_data_sheet09186a008022b11b.html
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