Clean install is a MUST on an SDD

I just clean installed Win 7-64 on my new Crucial C300 256GB SDD. What a HUGE difference between the clean install and my previous cloned install. Win 7 aligns the SDD and crams a LOT more data into the sdd. Also, the SDD is faster with the clean install.

I know nothing about perfect Disk but I do not trust any claims that it is OK to defrag an SDD with any of the presently available software.  I carefully researched Diskeeper and I could find no credible support for Diskeepers unsubstantiated but over-hyped claim that it is OK to defrag SDDs with Diskeeper.  
To the contrary, Crucial tech support told me flat out:  "Do NOT defrag our SDDs with any software."   On an SDD which has no moving heads or disks,  defragging just writes onto the solid state storage space and in doing so uses up some of the SDD's finite life.

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    Message Edited by DrunkenNinja on 05-07-2008 03:38 AM
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    Hi ohad, welcome to the forums,
    I'm sorry to read about your experience. 
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  • Windows 7 upgrade: discs will include the option for a 32 to 64-bit upgrade via a clean install?

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    moderator note: core question add to title, as stated in the forum rules and it will help others too answer your questions.

    Daventry wrote:
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