Client Deletion using R3trans

Hello,
We would be using R3trans to delete the client.
Is there a problem (performance wise or any other) if we delete a client during normal operational hours?
Secondly, do I need to delete the T000 entry before running R3trans u2013w <log file name> -u 1 <command file name >
OR after I have deleted teh client?
Thanks.

Hi,
You can use the either way SCC5 or R3trans.
In R3trans your SAP system performance is not much effected as resource is not used in the name of SAP application,
because the R3trans run in os level. ( but still there will be effect of performance)
Please check following links use full one
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/Snippets/DeletingSAPclientsusingR3trans-itisuseful.
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/proper-way-to-delete-a-sap-client.htm
Thanks & Regards,
Balaji.S

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I have been going through tough times in SAP ECC right now.
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Hi,
Thank u all for helping me out....
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I have a strange requirement here, I am planning to execute client deletion using parallel processing. I will be executing the deletion during weekends Saturday & Sunday. In case, if the deletion still continue on Monday morining, I want to cancel the deletion ( Logically STOP) and resume in next weekend..
Since, client deletion will resume from the point where it stopped, i would like to know the standard procedure of cancelling the deletion job. Does SCC5 or SCC3 provides any option to STOP the active jobs? If not, which is the correct way to stop the active deletion process?
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Hi Vinodh,
Set a background job for client deletion using transaction SCC5 and stop the active job when you want to....using SM37>Job>Cancel active job ....At this time the client is almost completely deleted. If you need to, you can restart the deletion. Because the users must have been deleted at this point, log on as user SAP* and use the initial password PASS and continue with client deletion.
Award points accordingly,
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Hi experts,
I have a problem when I do the client deletion using the process type"ERP Package for client deletion".
After the first time execution of deleting the datas of table TD09P_*...,
I received the follows below.
State of sub-activity State Sub-activities
Aborted                                  5
Completed successfully              10,203
Completed with warning                   0
Completed with error                     0
Running (In process)                     0
Not yet started                          0
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(TD09P_T313I
TD09P_T313J
TD09P_T313K
TD09P_T313L
TD09P_T313LD).
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Message text
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Step 001 started (program /TDM/9_300_90007_02208_C, variant &0000000000007, user ID LEEE03)
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Job started
Step 001 started (program /TDM/9_300_90007_02208_C, variant &0000000000007, user ID LEEE03)
Session ID C1290007000000000010 is not valid
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Eric

Hi
I had the exact same issue, and what i have found was that the tool drop all the authorization data and if you had specified a cust profile that handle the RFC authorization then the RFC connection to the receiver system then no longer works.
The way I managed to solve the issue was to change the SAP_TDMS_MASTER role and added in object S_RFCACL with all permissions and generated and activated it.
This allowed the RFC to work again and then you could restart the process from the central system
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Alex Tender

Exporting and importing table using R3trans program between 2 clients

Hi,
How to export and import a table between to clients in a same system using R3trans program?
I need to copy a table from Client 020 in a system to client 040 of the same system using R3 trans. I need to know the procedure.
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Suresh

This is how you do a export and import of table entries.
Export:
Open Notepad and type the following,
export
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file = 'clone.export.<sid>.<client no>.data'
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select * from <client_dependent_tablename2>
select * from <client_dependent_tablenamen>
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import
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file = clone.export.<sid>.<client no>.data
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Bidwan
Message was edited by:
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UNABLE TO DO CLIENT DELETION

Hi
Im trying to delete a client with the virtual user i.e SAP* and password as PASS,as im not able to create a user in that client as it asking to maintain company address...and when im trying to provide the company address its not giving any F4 fields to choose...is there any solution where i can delete the client.
Regards
G.prashanth
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 AM

Hi,
go to client which u want to delete->scc5->delete client using background process.After this u need to login to another client and delete entry in SCC4.
or
U can delete by using R3trans at os level
Check this
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/proper-way-to-delete-a-sap-client.htm
unable to Delete client

Client Delete and Logical System and CUA

I'm getting ready to do some client clean up in prep for an upgrade from ECC 5 to ECC 6 soon.
Currently we have a 3 system landscape: DV1 QA1 PR1
Clients on these systems are as follows: (not including 000, 001, 066)
PR1:100 - the production client
QA1:100 - Integration Master - not used except for RFC connections for Solution Manager
QA1:110 - Cycle 1 testing - not used
QA1:120 - Cycle 2 testing - not used
QA1:200 - Old training master client - not used
QA1:201 - Old training client - not used
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DV1:100 - Configuration - not used
DV1:110 - ABAP development
DV1:120 - Configuration
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Some of these are setup in the CUA system.
All are showing up in Solution Manager SMSY system landscape.
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1) Delete the client(s) (SCC5) one by one
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What I am unsure about is the order of the process. Should the CUA and ALE modifications come before actually deleting the client?
Does this sound like a reasonable plan to clean up our client landscape?
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Dear Laurie,
Order should be like below:
1) Remove the client from CUA (SCUA)
2) Delete the client(s) (SCC5) one by one
3) Remove the logical name (SALE)
More over you should delete these clients from Solution Manager also inorder not to have error message when you go to solution Manager for doing anything on that system.
Please revert back for any queries.
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Table space and recollection of released space after client deletion

Dear All,
I have two questions:
1.Can any1 tell me how to determine the fastest growing table and how to reorganize table space.
2. Is there any way by which we can recollect the space released:say after client deletion. I had deleted one client two weeks back and when I saw the SAP/user drive I fow free space available remains the same.
I searched but found no relevant clue.
regards,
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1.- You can see the largest table report in ST04 (as far as i remember)...
2.- You can reorganize your db using brtools - brspace...
Read,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/32/0d0c888839164ba4245b3ff7969c59/frameset.htm
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Use brtools to reduce the tablespace size.
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Need help, Every month in our quality system we do client refresh so we delete existing data from quality and take export from production and Import into quality.Client Import takes 15 hrs but to delete client it almost takes 36 hrs. There are PCL4/2/1 tables which takes more time to delete the data even not sure they will delete all the data.Looks like these are cluster tables so what can be do to have more optimize client deletion.
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Hi
PCL4 is not a cluster, at least on Ehp6 at DB level it is a transparent table, that means that the table does exist at both SAP & DB level.
There is a way to process deletion faster, at least for Oracle (but it could also work for other DB)
Create a new temporary table table with a CTAS command (copy table as select) to only include the data for the clients you want to keep.
You can then drop the original table and rename the temporary table to the original name.
Watch out CTAS does not copy indexes, constraints and default values.
If you are using Oracle DB datapump query parameter can be the best option.
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Client copy using SAP_CUST profile

Hi
I have a requirement to copy the Production client (customization only) to Dev-100 customization client (Already existing with customization). Since the production system is having the latest customization settings,my func team wants to copy the production system customization to Dev customization client.
My system config (SAP R/3 4.6C, Oracle 8i, HP UX 11i)
Requirement: PRD 500 --> DEV 100 (Client copy using SAP_CUST)
I have planned the activity as below,
1. Create a backup client in Dev system ... Dev 110 as a copy of Dev100 (Perform a SCCL with SAP_ALL profile of DEV 100)
2. Export SAP_CUST from PRD 500
3. Del Dev100 and import 500 to Dev 100
My doubt is,
1. Whether it is mandatory to delete Dev client 100 before importing PRD client 500?
2. If we import the PRD client in to Dev without deleting, will the data consistency be maintained? ( Profile is SAP_CUST)
3. How long will be the export and import of SAP_CUST will run on an average(Any ways to find the number of tables that get exported when we use SAP_CUST profile?)
4. Any post import activity to be performed after SAP_CUST import?
Please share your experience on this regard. Also, please clarify whether my approach to the requirement is correct or not.
regards,
Vinodh.

Hi Vinod,
1. No need to delete client 100 in Dev system. If you copy SAP_CUST profile from PRD system the Production Only customising data will be over written by existing data in DEV.
2.Data cpnsistency will be maintained and you can monitor the entire process using SCC3. Here you can monitor how many table copied and how much % of data copied.
3. As pawan said Please lock all users in DEV system except your user as apreinstallation activity and start client copy. Once you done with that Unlock all users and SGEN to generate nulily created object and to increase system performance.
4. The time take for complition will be depend on you data you are coping.
Before start Client copy follow pre requisites and start.
Follow below link for clarification of your doubts and for pre requisites
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/69/c24c0f4ba111d189750000e8322d00/frameset.htm">http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/69/c24c0f4ba111d189750000e8322d00/frameset.htm</a>
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Client Copy Using Client Export/Import

Hi Everyone,
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!) I want to know which user should be used to perfrom Client Export ?
2) I want to know know which user to be used to perform Client delete?
3) Is there any particular USER who is recommended to perform Client Copy or any USER can do it?
4) After the Client Delete Procedure thorugh SCC5 ..to get back the client space we do Reorganization ? can anyone plzz tell me what are the tables that i need to reorganize or if anyone can provide me the steps for Reorganization i would be really thankful.
Waiting For your Replies
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Hi Mohammed,
1)I want to know which user should be used to perfrom Client Export ?
You can use your personal defined on the system UserID.
2) I want to know know which user to be used to perform Client delete?
Same as above, just make sure you have an account on the client and you log on to the right client
3) Is there any particular USER who is recommended to perform Client Copy or any USER can do it?
I am not aware that you should use a particular user. I have been doing copies/deletions with my UserID, as system administrator.
4) After the Client Delete Procedure thorugh SCC5 ..to get back the client space we do Reorganization ? can anyone plzz tell me what are the tables that i need to reorganize or if anyone can provide me the steps for Reorganization i would be really thankful.
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Rgds,
Loukas

Client deletion and reorganise

Is there any impacts to delete client with scc5 and T000 values? i want to delete 8 clients at a time from my test system. how can i reorganize database? can i delete directly with scc5 or any thing i could do? can i delete logical systems and rfc connections before going to delete clients? how can i delete these clients without side effects.
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Client deletion should not be an issue,u can do it with SCC5 just delete all the RFC's and logical connections prior deleting them.there are no sideeffects as such
use this method:
log into the client to delete
2. go into SCC5 and delete client
3. log into another client and delete entry with SCC4
u cal also delete the client from database but this is better option,use it
for database reorganization you can use BRTOOLS i.e BRSAPCE
check out the following link for more info.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/EN/32/0d0c888839164ba4245b3ff7969c59/content.htm
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Good morning everyone,
I am after "best practices" when deleting a client.
I am not planning on re-using some of the deleted clients and want to make sure the landscape is cleaned up where possible with reference to these clients.
I am especially after anything that would take up space at the OS or database level that would not necessarly be cleaned up via SCC5.
Has anyone got recomendations on what can and should be cleaned up before and after a client deletion?
For example I have cleaned up WE20-WE21, the RFC...
The logs are still there under SCC3, usefull for historical purposes, but really should they been retained?
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Coco

Hello
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Hi Gurus,
We are trying to delete a client by running:
clientremove
client = 200 (*200 being the client we want to remove)
select *
The transaction log disk space allocated is 50GB, it is getting full (in simple mode) and client deletion never completes. The size of the table it is accessing is 86 GB, and i think 200 client will be occupying around 40-45GB. Client 200 has 15.5 million rows in the table.
I am i giving proper command ?is there any explicit commit i can include or any workaround for deleting the client and not hammer the log file.
Thanks guys
Edited by: SAP_SQLDBA on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM

Hi,
Backup the active transaction log file and Shrink the file directly.
Please refer the following SAP Notes to get more information.
[ Note 625546 - Size of transaction log file is too big|https://websmp130.sap-ag.de/sap%28bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==%29/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=625546]
[ Note 421644 - SQL error 9002: The transaction log is full|https://websmp130.sap-ag.de/sap%28bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==%29/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=421644]
Which version of SQL Server u are using ? SP Level ?
Frequently perform Transaction Log backup (BACKUP TRANS) to remove inactive space within the Transaction Log Files.
Please refer [Note 307911 - Transaction Log Filling Up in SQL Server 7.0|https://websmp130.sap-ag.de/sap%28bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==%29/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=307911] to get more information about the reasons for such kind of situation.
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