Cloning Tiger vs. cloning TM vs. ?

I have two internal drives (500GB and 200GB) and two external removables (500GB and 160GB which should be retired). I want to keep an internal volume for booting into Tiger. I also want to create an internal volume for Time Machine. The external 500GB is the dedicated clone backup. All run at SATA-150 speed.
Which is better:
1. Partitioning big internal drive into 450GB Leopard and 50GB Tiger (or similar size). Second internal drive becomes the TM volume. External big drive also gets partitioned into 450GB Leopard clone and 50GB Tiger clone.
2. Partitioning big internal drive into 250GB main and 250GB TM. Second internal drive (200GB) remains Tiger. External drive also becomes two volumes, cloning both the 250GB main and 250GB TM volume.
I've never used TM before. I don't think I'll ever have more than 200GB of data.

Thank you for your replies, but my TM has now completed its first cycle (plus one or two backups), and I'm happy to report that my choice of strategy #1 works beautifully. Even the Tiger volume contents are now inside the Time Capsule!
And contrary to what you may think, you seem to have misunderstood what I was asking...
a brody wrote:
Setup A:
1. internal drive 1 has two partitions Tiger and Leopard including all your applications and documents on partition 1 with Leopard.
2. internal drive 2 has Leopard bare bones.
No! Second internal drive needs no OS. The entire drive is now my simple TM volume.
3. External drive 1 has a partition matching the bare bones Leopard thanks to cloning software.
and a Time machine backup on a second partition of both Internal drive 1 and 2.
No! Why so convoluted. External drive 1 is identical in size to internal drive 1; therefore, it's partitioned identically. Leopard is cloned then Tiger is cloned into their respective volumes. One physical removable drive, two volumes.
4. External drive 2 is a clone of external drive 1 after Time machine has completed its backup to your satisfaction.
No. It's the smaller, older, original drive, which I will retire as I've mentioned.
Setup B:
1. internal drive 1 has one Leopard partition including all your applications and documents.
2. internal drive 2 has a bare bones Leopard partition, and a Tiger partition.
No. If this setup was implemented, any bare bones Leopard installation would not have been needed. Internal drive 1 would be partitioned equally into two volumes, one of which is Leopard including all documents, the other would be the TM volume for it.
3. External drive 1 has a partition matching the bare bones Leopard partition thanks to cloning software and a Time machine partition containing the Leopard data from internal drive 1, *and internal drive 2's Tiger partition.* (section edited)
4. External drive 2 is a clone of external drive 1 after Time machine has completed its backup to your satisfaction.
You get too confusing at this point. Remember the K.I.S.S. principle.
Choose your poison. All are less damaging that treating any internal drive as a backup on its own.
No poison needed. I now have what seems to be the best of all worlds. The internal TM volume, if you can call it a backup, provides "hourly versions for the past 24 hours, daily versions for the past month, weekly versions until the disk is full." It even pulls up earlier versions of applications and documents from Tiger and Classic!

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if i install Leopard on my Powerbook will i still be able to boot from that Tiger drive??
You can't install a second OS on your PB. However your clone should boot your PB from the disk it's on. Just connect that disk, then in System Preferences >> Startup disk, choose it and restart.
-mj

URGEND: After cloned backup neither usb nor bluetooth mouse recognized

ahhhhhh, help needed....
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Just watching various posts on forums to see what I should do next. I updated to 10.6 from DVD, then went to 10.6.5, and my keyboard and mouse would stop working, and then start working again when I unplugged and replugged the keyboard (I have the mouse plugged into the keyboard). I don't want to spend all day unplugging and plugging my keyboard. I just went back to core 10.6 from the DVD, all my main software seems to work, so unless I have problems, I'm just sticking with core 10.6 until things get resolved.
I might try updating to 10.6.2, or 10.6.4, but not until I'm forced into it (when something is really not working on unstable). I do mostly music and video work. The only reason I updated was because something new I want to run (Wavelab 7) only works with 10.6. I usually never update my OS unless I'm forced into it, I'm way not an OS early adopter, I have work to do! I was truly expecting 10.6.5 to be OK, they've had plenty of time to get the kinks worked out. I wasn't expecting Apple to introduce new ones. Sounds like I'm not bothering with 10.6.6 now. 10.6.7 anyone? Do I hear .8?
Way to go Apple.

What's the best way to use a cloned Snow Leopard drive with an iBook?

My aging and ailing MacBook Pro is going in for Apple Care.
I've made a clone of its hard drive and would like to keep working this week using an iBook G4. Alas, an external drive with Snow Leopard will not boot from an iBook. I did format the drive as an Apple Partition Map, so I can see it from the iBook and work with its files--but it will not start up from it.
I forsee screw-ups as I work with some programs and files on the iBook and others off the hard drive. Eudora, e.g., requires its In Box and Out Boxes to reside on the boot drive; many of my favorite programs take their settings from the start up computer, not the external drive. That means there will be all sorts of settings-- e.g., Word, Excel's, iKey's --that will need setting on the iBook or copying over to it.
Alternatively, I could downgrade the external drive to Leopard or even Tiger so I can boot from it and work with the files that way. I think that will require having to reformat the external drive--which means no direct cloning of the MBP drive to it! It also would preclude an easy 1-step restore (I'd have to clone it back to the MBP and then upgrade to SL).
Unsure which way makes the most sense-- or if there's another way I haven't thought of. I do have additional hard drives to play with (e.g., I made another SL clone of the entire MBP drive).
Any ideas, suggestions welcome!

AstroMacMan wrote:
Appreciate that extra tidbit, although that's not exactly true, is it? I mean, I had a cloned Leopard MBP and a cloned Tiger hard drive that do boot from the iBook!
If we could distinguish and separate the hardware drivers, download them from Apple etc., then it could be said we can use a clone on another model of Mac provided: A, B and C are met.
But since Apple has changed from OS 9 to OS X, PowerPC 32 bit to 64 bit, PowerPC to to Intel 32 bit, Intel 32 bit to 64 bit, locks the drivers to certain install disk versions and changes hardware around constantly, including changing the OS and making it not run on earlier versions of hardware, sideways stuff like A4/A5 processors, causing such a cluster mess of confusion and obscuration that it's better to say NOT than trying to find the tiny possibilities that it can happen.
If it does happen, lucky you, likely won't happen for any duration worth relying upon.

HELP!! Can no longer log in to my Cloned HD.

I can't log in on my external cloned HD. When booting up, it asks for user and password - but doesn't accept any of the ones I know - not even a root password I managed to recall from five years ago.
I think my accounts are still there - at any rate, I can see various of my folders in their complete hierarchies within the "Users" folder on the drive.
I tried resetting the original administrator account password (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1274?viewlocale=en_US , bottom of page). The Password Reset utility on my Tiger Install CD reveals the drive, but the "select a user of this volume" drop down menu is grayed out and reads "No Users."
How can I get back my accounts and log in?
Here's some background which might help explain how I got into this mess.
For a couple of years, I cloned my 160G hard drive to a 1T external using SuperDuper's "Copy Newer" facility. This effectively gave me a backup of all my files to a drive from which I could also boot in an emergency. I tested once or twice. It worked a treat, starting up and logging in as if it were my internal drive (but larger, and containing all those past files I'd deleted to conserve space).
Last summer, I was lured by Apple to upgrade to their new Snow Leopard system at a very reasonable price.
Almost instantly, my computer slowed down (especially Safari browsing) and I lost a number of dated applications (particularly Adobe apps from pre 2004 such as Photoshop).
I thought: never mind - I still have a cloned boot drive should I want to use my older applications. So I stopped the SuperDuper backups in order to preserve my Tiger system with its setup and log-ins - effectively, a bootable replica of my pre-September hard drive.
Snow Leopard gave me Time Machine, anyway. It requires a separate drive for backups - and there was still plenty of room on this 1T external…. So for the last six months or so, Time Machine has been squirrelling away copies of all my files into its own folder on that same Tiger hard drive.
I'm now upgrading my internal HD to a new SATA drive with triple the space.
In preparation, I've used SuperDuper to clone my HD.
Since I still didn't want to overwrite my Tiger system, I copied everything to a disk image (called "Eric's backup.sparsebundle") on that same large external drive.
I was going to install the empty new drive, boot from my Tiger drive and restore the Leopard clone (from the disk image "Eric's backup"), to the new internal drive.
So there it is.
I now suppose my problem may be that, effectively, this unpartitioned external drive actually contains three systems (albeit two of them backed up in a self-contained way). But I assumed that only the September clone (of my Tiger system) would be visible when it came to boot up.
It looks as though I assumed wrong. It seems my computer can longer see my log-in files.
I don't understand the Unix operating system - but, from reading these topics, it seems to me hopeful that I might be able to use terminal commands to restore passwords and user settings to some file within some hidden folder so that I might again reboot from my Tiger clone and log in.
Grateful for all advice anyone can give me.
(Incidentally, I have already tried deleting the /var/db/.AppleSetupDone file as per http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/ . Frustratingly, the setup process got as far as "Select keyboard: UK; USA" and, on continuing, hung with a spinning colour wheel each time. After forty minutes of nada, I restarted in terminal and put back the SetUpDone file)

Thanks BD, I'll look into that.
Whilst in terminal I followed someone's instructions to "fsck -fy".
I don't know what the words mean, but it appeared to run a full check on the disk. No problems found. Is that as good as running Disk Utility?
As I say, it seems to me possible (complete guesswork here as I know nothing about Apple's internal workings) that - whilst Time Machine was storing my files in a dedicated folder on my drive* - it was also making its own SnowLeopard changes to files within the invisible "var" folder on that drive (or some such other system folder); and that those changes have prevented Tiger from recognising my users and passwords. If were the case, then perhaps there is something straightforward I can do to point Tiger back towards my users - with or without passwords.
I've also just spotted this: http://www.macobserver.com/tip/2003/06/16.1.shtml
Anyone know if I'm likely to do more harm than good with it?
I won't have time to do either today - but very grateful for any further suggestions.

My new HD with a cloned system and apps won't boot the G5 when installed. The clone drive is being journal formatted via usb with OS9 checked in disk utility. First time around, I didn't check OS9, and the G5 didn't boot from the clone drive. Advice?

My system is a G5 PPC with 2x 2Gig 64bit processors (dual core). 6 gig of ram on board, running OSX 10.4.11. I recently discovered the main drive was actually a laptop drive someone had stuffed in there! (The machine was given to me - yes, really). So I bought a nice new WD Caviar Black 500Gig HD. Hooked it up via usb adapter (G5 won't see it internally). Disk Utility saw it, formatted it with Journal option selected, but not OS9 install.
After that, I cloned the data on the slow laptop drive complete with all the applications onto the Caviar HD.Sure enough, the G5 can see the Caviar HD with everything on it.
However, when putting the Caviar HD in where the laptop drive once was, the G5 would not see the disk at all.
So now, I'm reformatting the drive again but this time with OS9 checkbox ticked in Disk Utility. After this, I will install it into the machine alongside the offensively sluggish laptop drive, and as long as the G5 sees the Caviar HD internally, I will clone from there, rather than via USB hookup.
I hope this way the system will speed up! There's no way the machine is running as it can do with a pokey little laptop drive in it spinning at 5k surely!
I am assuming the Tiger 10.4.11 is genuine (I think it is - the X symbol is present on the folder), but I don't have the original disk...
Any suggestions? Has anyone had this experience?

Hi BDAqua... downstairs away from unit at the moment. It's a Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gig, twin processors, SATA3 / 6, 64Meg cache on-board... nice. Very quite with minimal vibration (slight).
However as I'm here I can announce I've solved the problem! The G5 had an original Seagate Barracuda HDD on board as a slave drive. I backed up the dat off that onto the Caviar Black via USB adapter. Then Disk Utility wiped the Barracuda safely.
Then, I installed SuperDuper! to clone the data from the sluggish laptop master drive onto the Barracuda; I also told SuperDuper! to boot the G5 from the newly image Barracuda.
After it had done the job I switched off the machine (it may well have rebooted - I was downstairs watching England fail at Eurovision Song Contest), took out the laptop drive and started up the G5.
Mercifully, it rebooted fine! All details and programs are intact and functioning right down to my screensaver.
I can report that the machine is noticably (considerably in the case of Logic8 and JamPack) faster and swifter at sourcing data.
Everything is backed up and I now have a speedier G5! Hurrah!!
I now have a spare 80Gig drive to hand in a caddy (originally a spare backup) that was made about the same time as the G5. It's my guess that it would fit the G5 internally and probably be seen ok by the system.
It's worth a try. The Caviar Black will have to go into a caddy and become my backup disk. It has a clone of the OS and all apps, so if something goes badly wrong, I'm safe.
Just a thought: The more advanced Leopard and Snow Leopard OS may struggle in G5's because the OS itself may require faster HDD's that cannot go into the G5 normally? I see many reports of Snow Leopard running like a bag of bones in people's G5's. Perhaps it's something to do with data retrieval speeds?
I'm sticking with Tiger!
I hope this story has assisted someone somewhere... and many thanks to all you kind people who offer to help.
When Humanity's back is against the wall, this is how civilization will restart and re-establish... guys like us solving problems at desks, on PC's and in garden sheds!

Reinstalling Leopard Using Erase and Install with a Cloned HD Backup

Hello. I realize there are dozens of posts related to my situation. And that is part of my problem. There seems to be so much disparate information, I can't figure out how to pull all the threads of info together.
Even if this is rehashing some old info, perhaps it's appearance in "more recent posts" will serve someone other than just me.
When I upgraded to Leopard about three months ago, I chickened out big-time at the very last second and installed the upgrade on top of Tiger. Apparently not a good idea as I'd been running Tiger on a first generation iMac Intel for about two years. (I know, I know ... I feel cowardly.) Now I have a situation where I can reboot, but very, very slowly ... it's beach ball time a great deal of the time ... and I cannot boot from the install disk to access Disk Utility for an apparently needed disk repair of some unspecified corruption. I've repaired permissions as far as I can tell, nothing else seems to work.
So ...
I've cloned my hard drive using Carbon Copy Cloner ... and I'm simply considering a "clean install" of Leopard, making sure to do all OS updates before attempting to migrate anything back in or install third party apps. (I've got all of the latest versions of third party apps archived and waiting on my back-up drive.)
Is there a reliable list of what folders I can (and should) move from the back-up drive to the freshly installed OS ... to regain Apple Mail accounts and mailboxes, Airport info, iTunes, etc. Will Migration Assistant do most of this or is it a combination of that and judicious "manual" labor.
Also, unless there is some physical damage to the main hard drive, will a fresh reinstall likely take care of disk error issues ... in other words, is it likely to be that type of problem?
Please excuse the newbie-ness of all this and thanks for any help you can provide.

I am confused by how you can do a fresh install of Leopard if you cannot boot from your install disk.
In reviewing my old questions, I realized I do have an answer for this (thanks to Apple Tech Support). Because I installed Leopard over Tiger (as described in my original post), somehow the Leopard Install Disk would simply not work ... because what was still left over from Tiger was only able to recognize the Tiger Install Disk. When I dug that out and attempted it from there, it worked. So if someone else has trodden the ill-advised path I did and has the same frustration ... if you've got a Tiger/Leopard Frankenstein on the loose, perhaps trying a Tiger Install disk will help. The end of the story ... I wiped my hard drive, did a clean Leopard install and, for the most part, all is well. After installing Memory Stick to determine RAM usage, I've come to the conclusion that my routine beach balls are probably more the result of needing more than 1G of memory these days. So it's off to the Memory Store!

Mac Pro 8 core with boot drive cloned from MacBook Pro

I bought a Mac Pro 8 core and in order to avoid having to reinstall all my stuff, I cloned my OSx (tiger 10.49) partition from my MacBook Pro running vista (installed via bootcamp) to my new MacPro's startup disk. The disk works fine except that the MacPro will not boot to osx unless I use the option key and choose the OSX partition. If i just turn the machine on it doesen't find anything. I think it is looking for windows. What do you think?????
Also, if i restart from the os x partition on my mac pro it stops just before the lound bong sound and seems to be looking for the dvd drive. Any ideas??

Well, I've covered this extensively here:
A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction.
Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3 or G4 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
Screensavers written for the PowerPC
System Preference add-ons
All Unsanity Haxies
Browser and other plug-ins
Contextual Menu Items
Applications which specifically require the PowerPC G5
Kernel extensions
Java applications with JNI (PowerPC) libraries
See also What Can Be Translated by Rosetta.
In addition to the above you could also have problems with migrated cache files and/or cache files containing code that is incompatible.
If you migrate a user folder that contains any of these items, you may find that your Intel-Mac is malfunctioning. It would be wise to take care when migrating your systems from a PowerPC platform to an Intel-Mac platform to assure that you do not migrate these incompatible items.
If you have problems with applications not working, then completely uninstall said application and reinstall it from scratch. Take great care with Java applications and Java-based Peer-to-Peer applications. Many Java apps will not work on Intel-Macs as they are currently compiled. As of this time Limewire, Cabos, and Acquisition are available as universal binaries. Do not install browser plug-ins such as Flash or Shockwave from downloaded installers unless they are universal binaries. The version of OS X installed on your Intel-Mac comes with special compatible versions of Flash and Shockwave plug-ins for use with your browser.
The same problem will exist for any hardware drivers such as mouse software unless the drivers have been compiled as universal binaries. For third-party mice the current choices are USB Overdrive or SteerMouse. Contact the developer or manufacturer of your third-party mouse software to find out when a universal binary version will be available.
Also be careful with some backup utilities and third-party disk repair utilities. Disk Warrior (does not work), TechTool Pro (pre-4.5.1 versions do not work), SuperDuper (newest release works), and Drive Genius (untested) may not work properly on Intel-Macs. The same caution may apply to the many "maintenance" utilities that have not yet been converted to universal binaries.
Before migrating or installing software on your Intel-Mac check MacFixit's Rosetta Compatibility Index.
Additional links that will be helpful to new Intel-Mac users:
Intel In Macs
Apple Guide to Universal Applications
MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
Transferring data with Setup Assistant - Migration Assistant FAQ
Because Migration Assistant isn't the ideal way to migrate from PowerPC to Intel Macs, using Target Disk Mode or copying the critical contents to CD and DVD or an external hard drive will work better when moving from PowerPC to Intel Macs.
Basically the instructions you should follow are:
1. Backup your data first. This is vitally important in case you make a mistake or there's some other problem.
2. Connect a Firewire cable between your old Mac and your new Intel Mac.
3. Startup your old Mac in Target Disk Mode.
4. Startup your new Mac for the first time, go through the setup and registration screens, but do NOT migrate data over. Get to your desktop on the new Mac without migrating any new data over.
4. Copy the following items from your old Mac to the new Mac:
In your /Home/ folder: Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites folders.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist (* This is a very important file which contains all email account settings and general mail preferences.)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ copy any preferences needed for third-party applications
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
Credit goes to another forum user for this information.
If you need to transfer data for other applications please ask the vendor or ask in the Discussions where specific applications store their data.
5. Once you have transferred what you need restart the new Mac and test to make sure the contents are there for each of the applications.
Written by Kappy with additional contributions from a brody.
Not knowing what you did when you migrated from your PB to the MBP, I can't really comment, but it's quite possible it didn't go as well as you think. Numerous users who migrated from PPC Macs to Intel Macs ended up with an Intel Mac that didn't work properly because Intel coded components had been replaced by PPC coded components.

Restoring music from a cloned bootable hardrive?

Hi, I am in the process of getting ready in upgrading from tiger to snow leopard.
I have already cloned my current internal hard drive using super duper into an external usb drive, in case the upgrade doesn't work.
As I want to do a clean install of snow leopard, that means all my data on my hard drive will be gone.
I was wondering whether I could use the cloned external usb drive (os x tiger) to restore files such as itunes, imovies etc just by simply inserting the usb drive and drag and drop the songs into the new internal drive (snow leopard).

[iTunes for Mac: Moving your iTunes Music folder|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1449]
but I find the link below more helpful:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to -a-new-hard-drive

Reverting to my cloned system

I have a bootable copy of my HD saved to my laci drive from about a month ago. Earlier today tiger ate my clock and refuses to give it back. Disk Utility freezes and won't repair. When I boot off laci, everything works perfectly. How to I get rid of the clock-eating version of tiger and replace it with the clone on my laci drive?
Better yet, since I know where the corruption screwing everything up is, is there maybe a way I could just replace those files with the uncorrupted ones on my laci drive? The problem is in the core system files (I'll look and see if I can pinpoint which one).
Anyway, which would be easier? I have a lot of new files created since this clone and backing them all up to revert the system will be a real pain in the behind. Then again, I hesitate to begin playing with anything called 'core system files'.
IMac duo-core 1.83ghz intel Mac OS X (10.4.4)

You can clone your backup to the main drive in the same way you cloned to the backup. You will have to erase the main drive before cloning.
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the startup or source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
For added precaution you can boot into safe mode before doing the clone.

Hiding symlinks in the root on a cloned volume

This evening I cloned a Tiger server system volume from one disk to another using Disk Utility. On the newly created clone, symlinks for etc, tmp, and var show up in the root when viewed with the Finder whereas they don't on the original drive. Is there any way to re-hide those symlinks on the cloned drive?
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Actually I tried CCC first and it died with an Applescript error and an extremely long list of files it had a problem copying for some reason. Copying the drive with Disk Utility worked except for the symlinks showing up, and even that is not a giant deal (at least to me). It didn't hurt the server's functionality, and I'm glad to get the chance to learn how to fix it.
Next time I clone a server drive, instead of cloning it live to an external FireWire drive, I should probably boot the server in target disk mode, and plug the server and FW drive into a second machine, and use Disk Utility on that second machine to do the cloning. I didn't realize this before, but block copy cloning requires that the source volume be unmounted, and the only way to do that for a system partition is to run it in target disk mode.

Cloning hard drive

Downloaded SuperDuper disc-cloning program but am getting a "Not compatible" with my system, message. Am running 10.2.8. Is a earlier version compatible with 10.2.8 available? As a download? Want to back up hard drive before loading and running my new OS X Tiger upgrade/install disc. Main concern is not losing any irreplaceable photos. Advice?

Donkkilmetron, welcome, I have had great success with Carbon Copy Cloner and it is compatible with 10.2.
How to back up and restore your files
Joe
Power Mac G4 Gigabit Ethernet Mac OS X (10.3.9) 1.5 GB Ram, ENCORE/ST G4, Tempo SATA, ATI Radeon 9000, Adaptec 4000

Cloning the hardrive?

Got a read failing hardrive message so I replaced the 250gb hd with a 300gb hd in my iMac G5. I now have a new drive and the old still functioning drive in an external HD caddie USB'd to my Imac. I want to transfer the old drive to the new drive as if nothing had happened. How do I do that?
If it matters, my son already put Tiger for G5 on the new HD while I was not watching.
Thanks.
JB

Hi,
There's cloning, then there's importing all your applications and files.
Best way to get an exact bootable copy of your old drive to the new one is with Carbon Copy Cloner...
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
But G5s need a Firewire drive for that, not USB.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25773
Which is actually best done during the install to the internal drive.

Need help with a problem after cloning my HD....

I recently cloned my HD to a backup drive. I did an erase and install of Tiger on my original drive. I recently cloned everything back onto my original drive from my backup drive. Now when I go to boot up on my original drive, for the first time ever I must type a Username and Password to log on to the computer. Trouble with this is, I tried my username and password and it would not work. I double, triple, quadruple checked my spelling and tried different combinations just in case i was being stupid, NOPE. It won't let me log on to my main HD. Can anyone help with this?

Let me get this straight. You did
1: Cloned your original boot drive to a external - not a problem
(did you boot from the clone to check it out?, did you use cloning software or???)
2: You erased your original boot drive - ok no problem.
3: You then installed Tiger on your original boot drive - ok no problem there
4: But you cloned from your clone back onto your original, freshly installed Tiger drive?
Why did you do this?
Cloning copies the whole drive, all the little hidden stuff, copy protection etc.
That's why it's called a clone.
Did you mean to say you copied certain folders/files from the clone onto the new Tiger install on your original boot drive?
What folders/files was these?
You need to copy the contents of certain folders inside your User folder, not the folders themselves.
What software did you use to clone with?
Read my detailed instructions here
http://homepage.mac.com/hogfish/Personal6.html
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Procedure for cloning to a NTFS internal drive?

I would like to clone my entire Powerbook to an internal hard drive that's on my desktop PC (Windows XP). Of course, the internal drive is NTFS formatted.
1) How to I prepare my NTFS drive to become a target drive for the clone? (In other words, how can I convert the drive to Mac compatible)?
2) Do I have to perform the CCC clone backup using a firewire, or can it be done via USB?

Well, unfortunately Macs cannot write to NTFS drives natively. Secondly, you wouldn't want to clone to such a drive as the result would not be compatible for restoring to the Mac - and it wouldn't be bootable.
Now, if you wish to convert an NTFS formatted drive for exclusive use on a Mac, then do the following:
1. Remove the drive from the PC and install it in an external FireWire enclosure - FW400 or FW800 whichever is supported by your PowerBook. (USB drives will not boot a PowerBook.)
2. Connect the drive to your Mac.
3. Do the following:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. If you need to reformat your startup volume, then you must boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the drop down menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (only required for Intel Macs) then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
After formatting has completed you're now ready to clone to this external drive. You can do this using CCC, the Restore option of Disk Utility, or any number of other third-party cloning software.
Test your clone afterwards to be sure it will boot your PowerBook.
You cannot do the above while the drive is still part of your PC.

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