COI First Consolidation (matrix)

Dear all,
We have a matrix consolidation where we are implementing Consolidation of Investments. Because of the matrix, we need to define the equity and investment values on both units. However we only have one legal axis (other one is only for management reporting). Technically the system will post goodwill because of differences in combinations. How can we prevent this? We only want the total value for equity and investment on one unit. Otherwise we have to load data on all combinations and even with a small amount.
Thanks in advance, Bobby Rijken

After changing the period, I am able to execute the task but it works only for CU04 and other CUs' left out.
CU04, CU03, CU02 are 100% Subsidiary of CU01.
Where do i define 100%parent and subsidiary relationship. In Accounting Technique I have selected the parent Company and I am using Purchase Method which I think will automatically consider 100%Minority Interest.
When I execute task for COI:
Doc. is posted but there is no investement detail
the doc. should look like as under:
First Consolidation under which
1. Investment
2. Equity
3. Differential
4. Document : cu01 invest(-)
cu01 invest
cu03 ordin share
cu01 gw 1
cu03 ordin share(-)
Amortization of Goodwill
1.
But in actual the following takes Place--
First Consolidation
1.Equity
2.Document: the doc posted is also wrong
cu03 ordin share
cu03 min int
Here investment and differential is left out and moreover Amortization of goodwill is also left out inspite of doing the required settings.
Edited by: VAISHALI MODI on Sep 30, 2008 8:35 AM

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[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60ep1/helpdata/en/68/08d54276053258e10000000a155106/content.htm|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60ep1/helpdata/en/68/08d54276053258e10000000a155106/content.htm]
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