Collecting waveforms from a continuous aquisition using an external pulse to section them off

I have an analog input and a digital, (or analog square wave), pulse counter. I need to continously aquire data from the input channel, and I need to divide the input up ,(collect waveforms), and then file the waveforms away in arrays using the rising edge of the counter pulse to mark the divisions. Is it possible to go about this without hooking up additional digital triggers or encoders which I don't have, and if so what's the best way to go? Thanks in advance for ANY help at all.
P.S. I'm using a PCI-MIO-16E-1 board

Hello;
By my understanding, you need to be able to recognize different waveforms that will be divided up by counter pulses.
One thing you can do is, since you know the sample rate of your Analog Input operation, you can use a counter to measure how much time was elapsed in between two counter pulses, than do some calculations on your VI to determine the number of points per waveform, after retrieving all datapoints from the file.
So, the main idea is to stream to disk all Analog Input points, and also save the counter information to a different file, then, retrieve that information and post process both files to figure out the number of points per waveform.
Hope this helps.
Filipe A.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

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Please see attached program flow diagram.
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1. When I want to acquire 100 waveforms using 100 subsequent trigger pulses, the attached VI (Multiple_record VI) gives me the following error message:
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"Possible reason(s):
Driver Status: (Hex 0xBFFA4009)
A previous acquisition is still in progress. If you are attempting to change an attribute, note you can only change fetch attributes while an acquisition is still in progress.
Status Code: -1074118647
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The method you use to analyze your data is fine. The only thing I would watch out for is memory problems. If you keep with the numbers you gave earlier, 100 waveforms at 3000 pts/wfm, you will be transferring 2.4MBytes of data per set. This is way over the 1MByte buffer NI-SCOPE uses for data transfer. It will work, but it might be slow. If you have problems, switch to niScope Fetch WDT.vi for your acquisition and move it inside the loop. Before you call the fetch VI, set the record it will fetch by using the property node and setting Fetch->Fetch Record Number using your loop index.
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