Color of Application

Hi All,
How can i change the color of Application
I am on Apps R-12
Thanks
Chandra Prakash Jangid.

Chandra,
Please post E-Business Suite questions in the E-Bus Forum. This forum is dedicated to Stand-alone Oracle Forms development.
As to your color question, this is controlled by a profile setting. I don't remember the exact name of the profile, but if you search on %COLOR% in the profile option, you should find it. It should be noted, you must have the responsibility assigned to you that allows you to alter user level profile settings - sorry, I don't remember the name of the responsibility. :-(
Craig...

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Hi,
I'm new to JAVA 2D so I may be missing something obvious - apologies if I am, but I've been trawling the API and web to try and solve this for many hours - so any help would be much appreciated!
I'm trying to write an application to open a JPEG with an embedded colour profile (in this case AdobeRGB) and display it with correct colour on my monitor, for which I have an accurate custom hardware calibrated profile. In my efforts to do this several problems / queries have arisen.
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Thanks.

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Incorrect Color outside Photoshop on Wide Gamut Display
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This is the problem with using a Wide Gamut display for viewing in non-color managed applications. A typical gamut display is not color correct in such applications, but is at least approximately correct; a wide gamut display is noticably oversatured in some colors. On the Mac many applications, including web browsers and OS utilities, are color managed, so it is less of an issue than on Windows.
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Article ID: 723
Created On: 10 Jan 2008 07:31 PM
So if the color is off outside PS, then its not the fault of the profile. My problem is the image is off INSIDE PS, and by the same reasoning, then the profile is at fault. If the profile is to blame, is this a Spyder issue or Vista issue? So far noone seems to know anything including Adobe tech support and Dell. Been waiting 2 wks to hear from the Spyder people.
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Sorry for the late reply;
But before we go there or make any assumptions, it's important for
you to determine whether you're seeing consistent color in your
color-managed applications and only inconsistent color in those that are
not color-managed. For that you'll need to do a little research to see
if the applications in which you're seeing darker colors have
color-management capability (and whether it is enabled).
I opened the same picture in 7 different applications and found that the 6 of the 7 displayed the photo equally dark with equally high contrast when compared to the 7th application (CS5). The other 6 applications were Zoombrowser EX, Digital Photo Professional, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, Quicktime PictureViewer, Microsoft Office Picture Manager and Firefox.
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And here's the setting in Digital Photo Professional that needs to be selected in order to match up with CS5 (again, circled in red):
*Note: When the option above "Monitor Profile" is selected ("Use the OS settings") the image is displayed exactly the same as when the monitor profile is selected. It's only when sRGB is selected that it goes back to the default darker, more contrasty version.
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What I also don't understand is why, when the monitor profile is selected in CS5, the image is displayed in the dark and contrasty way that the other programs display it as by default but when the monitor profile is selected in Digitial Photo Professional it displays it in the lighter, more washed out way that CS5 displays it using CS5's default settings (sRGB). Why would selecting the monitor profile in DPP display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in Photoshop? And vice versa...why would selecting the monitor profile in Photoshop display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in DPP?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here...which I probably am. Again, I'm very new to this stuff so pardon my ignorance on the topic.
By the way, I find that the way that the non-color managed programs (Windows Picture and Fax Viewer et al.) display the photos is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the duller, more washed out display that CS5 gives the photos, but ultimately what I want to see in these programs (especially PS5 where I'll be doing the editing) is the accurate representation of the actual photo itself...i.e. what it's supposed to look like and not a darker (or lighter) variant of it.
So just to reiterate my questions:
Why does selecting Monitor Profile under the color management settings in DPP give the same display results as the default sRGB profile in CS5 and vice versa? (CS5 with monitor profile selected having the same display results as DPP with the sRGB profile selected)
When using CS5 with it's default color management settings (sRGB), using DPP with the Monitor Profile selected, and using Zoombrowser EX with "Adjust color of images using monitor profile" selected this results in all three programs displaying the same lighter, washed-out images...is this lighter, more washed-out display of the images shown in these three programs the accurate one?
I noticed when opening an image in Firefox it had the same darker, contrasty look as the other non-color managed applications had. Assuming that the CS5 default settings are accurate, does this mean that if I edit a photo in CS5, save it, and upload it to the internet that other people who are viewing that image online will see it differently than how it's supposed to look (i.e. in a non-color-managed way?) If so, this would seem to indicate that they'd see a less-than-flattering version of the photo since if their browser naturally displays images as darker and more contrasty and I added more darkness and contrast to the image in CS5, they'd be seeing a version of the photo that's far too dark and probably wouldn't look very good. Is this something I have to worry about as well?
I apologize for the lengthy post; I do tend to be a bit OCD about these things...it's a habit I picked up once I realized I'd been improperly editing photos on an incorrectly calibrated monitor for years and all that time and effort had been spent editing photos in a certain way that looked good on my incorrectly calibrated monitor but looked like crap on everyone else's screen, so the length and detail of this post comes from a desire to not repeat similar mistakes by editing photos the wrong way all over again. Again, thanks in advance for all the help, it's greatly appreciated!

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Hi
My daughter has this setup
AMD 9550 quad 2.2mhz machine, Windows 7 ultimate. latest updates
ATI Radeon HD 5700 gpu card (latest driver)
Two LCD monitors
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Both monitors are calibrated, and have the latest driver updates. It does not matter which monitor is the main one.
PS cs4 also has the
1. If i load a photo in fireworks and drag the application back and forth accross the two monitors, the image looks virtually identical.
2. If i load the same photo in PS (cs4 11.0.1) and do the same, the image looks perfect in the LG but immediately darkens when on the Cintiq.
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          b. If I hover the image between the two monitors, then the darkening only is applied to half of the image.
3. If i change the preferences to not "color match" (in the performance->open GL) then the image does not darken and it remains loyal to the color profile in place. But!!!! the navigator and color selection tools remain darkened while on the Cintiq. So if she chooses a color from the tool, it paints a different color on the canvas.
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Ideally we want to be able to select a color from the palette and have that color be what is painted onto the canvas. We also want the image to appear as similar as they do in fireworks.
While Color Matching is checked:
On the cheaper monitor, the image and the navigation pane always has the same color appearance. when i change the color profile, the change is reflected in both the canvas and the navigation pane.
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The color selection tool and the navigation panel are affected but the canvas is not. But the two monitors canvases match.
So. in order for the navigation and color selction tool to match the canvas, the color matching needs to be checked.
But this creates the darkening on the cintiq. No matter what profile i choose, the cintiq is too dark. and photoshop is doing it because fireworks does not do this.
How can i set it up so that all the colors are true to the profile, and match the nav and color tools?
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Thanks
@Noel
It sounds as if the monitors are using two quite different profiles, which may indicate the calibration is off a good bit on one of them and the profile was generated to compensate. The clue here is that you see a change when you move a document from one to the other, and that temporarily (while an image crosses both monitors) you see quite a difference in it.
If you drag an image in a non-color-managed application across both monitors, so that specifically part of it is shown on one and part on the other, how different do they look?
Using fireworks or MSpaint or IExplore, an image looks pretty much exactly the same on either monitor as well as when spanning accross both.
The two monitors are clibrated so that all colors match on both monitors.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
The Cintiq has a better contrast ratio so the whites are slightly brighter.
But!!! If the moitors were not calibrated, then a fireworks image would look different on each screen. In fact they look exactly the same on both.
Even when the image spans accross the two screens.
It is only Photoshop that darkens the part of the image that hangs onto the Cintiq. And it is very dark.
Even in the famed "Monitor mode", the image is much darker than is is in IIE or MSPaint or Fireworks.
I dont want to disable the color profiling, as it is important to see what the target will look like.
But i do want to see what the target will look like! right now it is way to dark. No matter what profile i choose.
Also my examples are more to demonstrate the comparrison between the two monitors, but the goal is to get PS CS4 to work on the centiq. It would be nice to have the navigator and some panels on the other monitor and have the colors match, but more important is to have the colors on the cintiq look normal at all!
Thanks so far. but we are still messed up.
Jerry C

Lack of useful components for application developer :-(

I want to share some remarks about our rewrite old Windows application to new AIR/flex application.
If any Adobe staff will reading this it will be great :-)
For colorfull web application with exotic buttons is Flex undoubtedly great choice.
But there is many developers (and firms like us) who looking for something little different.
We got bunch of Windows application written in Delphi. And we want (must) to move to another technology.
AIR is superior in language, runtime, simple move-to-web, blazeDS, tools and ecosystem growth is promising.
The only bad thing about Flex/AIR is UI. Yes, you hear right. UI is our biggest show-killer. And I am afraid that even with spark it will not be better.
We wrote application not coloring-book.
So we want only basic but state-of-the-art UI-standard componnets.
ToolBar, CoolBar, Button with three states, Button with icon and auto-disabled-grayed-icon, etc..
1) I found on the web three technique how to add icon on the spark button. Two of them include skinning. Absolutly confusing!
2) No useful CoolBar. How long it takes make CoolBar like in Adobe Acrobat Reader or MS Word in my application? This is matters for me!
I dont want two or three full-time developers extra for making basic components for us.
In this point Silverlight got 100% lead. No doubt.
http://www.componentone.com/SuperProducts/StudioSilverlight/
http://demos.devexpress.com/AgMenuDemos/
We still evaluate both technologies. We like Flex because is more JAVA friendly that SilverLight, but lack of usefull components will be final dead-end.
Am so sorry.
Know Adobe staff about this issues?
Want Adobe application-developers or only web-developers?
Planning Adobe making application components in the future or is satisfied with current state?

One thing is what is technology is better for me. More jobs in the future.
Another thing is what is better path for migrating a lot Delphi application.
Is realy so hard to make simple, nice and usefull toolbar in Flex? I cant find anything. So maybe I must try myself :-(
What you mean with "Microsoft can no longer execute on new technologies well"?
My main question in previous post should be "what about lack of useful components".
And I expected one of this answers:
Adobe is happy with current state. Main Adobe bussines is colorful web-application.
Adobe know there should be rich components, but now has no time. In the near future Adobe deal with it.
I am dummy person and making great "toolbar" is easy as a piece of cake.

Color Management In Various Web Browsers For Untagged Images Broken Since 10.8 Upgrade

I have recently updated my early 2008 Mac Pro to 10.8 and have noticed that neither Safari, Firefox or Chrome handle untagged images correctly anymore. Instead of assuming sRGB as the ICC profile for an untagged image (like they did prior to upgrading), they now just convert to monitor profile which looks over-saturated on my wide gamut monitor (Dell 3007WFPHC, hardware calibrated with a Datacolor Spyder 3 Pro). Color management in Photoshop, Lightroom and all other previosuly color-aware applications appears unaltered. The interesting thing is that in Safari, if I open a link with "open in new tab", the untagged images are rendered as if their color profiles are sRGB and are displayed correctly! But just clicking the link in the same tab or "open in new window" results in the incorrect over-saturated colors. This doesn't make any sense. Anyone else have this same issue?

After digging around, I found that the behavior of Firefox can be changed to assume sRGB on untagged images by putting about:config into the address bar and changing the value of gfx.color_management.mode to 1. I vaguely recall doing something similar for Chrome years ago, but can't for the life of me rememebr what I did. When upgrading to 10.8, I did a fresh install so any mods to Chrome are no longer present.
As for Safari, I have never really used it and only notcied it behaved similarly when trying it because Chrome wasn't working. Still can't figure out why Safari works correctly when you select "open in new tab" though. Maybe this should be moved to the Safari forum?

ADOBE PHOTOSHOP CS6 COLOR PROBLEMS

hi i have a problem on adobe cs6, i am a photographer and i work heavily on my pictures, sometimes with graphic techniques(like lens flare, light leaks etc) and sometimes just with camera raw. i have this problem in the sense that i am satisfied with how the final image looks on my monitor but when i send these pictures to both my phones (AN HTC android and a blackberry q5) the images look over saturated, the colors are too contrasted and are too deep, everything looks like i over edited it and i dont understand. my laptop monitor supports 32-bit imaging and its set to that by default, but my picture mode in photoshop is set to 16-bit by default, please help as i dont know what to do, could it be my monitor thats rendering false colors? i read something about changing color spaces to between sRGB adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB but i just dont understand anything, please help
laptop specs:
toshiba satellite a665-s6050
intel core i3 350m @2.2ghz
intel hd 3000 graphics card
adobe photoshop cs6.1 with the latest camera raw

What is the images’ Color Space and do you embed the profile when saving?
In all probability your phones are simply not color managed.
So while converting the images to sRGB might improve the situation the issue may be that you are expecting what’s pretty much impossible – that images appear identically in color managed applications and on non-color managed devices.

Color space problem/confusion

I posted the following message to another thread, but at the recommendation of a member I am starting a new thread here. For a couple of answers see the thread below.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3298911#3298911
I will provide much more information hoping an Adobe support person will chime in. This is extremely odd.
System: HP, AMD, Windows 7 64-Bit, Nvidia 9100, all updates to Windows, latest Nvidia 9100 driver
Display: Samsung 226CW, Windows settings 32-bit color, correct resolution,
Calibration: Done with ColorMunki, D65 target, done after monitor has been on for more than 30 minutes
Personal: (I am adding this information with some hesitation, please excuse it if it sounds like I'm bragging; I am not). I have multiple posts on my blog, have made many presentations on color managed workflow and am very comfortable with the settings in Photoshop and Lightroom. Please take this only as a baseline information, I am not bragging. In fact, I am begging for information!
Problem:
Any, I mean ANY, original JPEG image in sRGB space coming out of the camera with no adjustments, any PSD file in sRGB space, any TIFF file in sRGB space look significantly paler in Lightroom and in Photoshop CS5 than they look in other Windows based image viewers like FastStone or XnView. This should not need these applications to be color space aware, but the situation is the same with or without their color managment turned on or off. I have done the following:
1. Totally uninstalled Lightroom 3 and reinstalled it
2. Recreated a brand new Lightroom catalog/library and reimported all the images, converting all the RAW files to DNG (just in case!)
3. Recalibrated the display
When I view a file, any file and I will use for the sake of simplicity a JPEG file in sRGB color space, in Lightroom it looks pale. Since the file is in sRGB color space, I have verified this, the rendering in Lightroom should be the same as rendering in anything else. But it is not. I took my monitor and connected it to this system with the same odd behavior of rendering in Lightroom being much paler than outside. It appears as if I am viewing an image in Adobe RGB in a windows viewer that is not color managed.
I further tried the following:
1. I copied various versions of one file, all in sRGB color space. One PSD and two JPEG files from the folders of the above system and copied them to my system, Intel, Windows 7 64-bit, display calibrated and profiled with ColorMunki to the same standards as the problem system above.
2. Imported them to Lightroom on my system
3. The rendering in Lightroom is identical to rendering outside Lightroom for all the files and all are same as the rendering in FastStone on the problem system. Outside rendering was done using FastStone as on the problem system.
My deduction is that something on the problem system outlined in the opening of the message is interfering with the Adobe rendering engine and I have no idea what it could be. I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE if an Adobe engineer could chime in and steer me in the right direction. I am willing to try other things but I have run out of ideas despite the fact that I have reduced much of the problem to the lowest common denominator of sRGB and JPEG against a PSD in sRGB.
Waiting anxiously of your help.
Cemal

Also, I know enough to calibrate a monitor when it is connected to a new computer. That said, even without calibration the behavior should have changed to display all the images in question the same but perhaps with somewhat off colors. Am I right? I am not arguing the point, I am rhetorically raising the question. If the 226CW is wide gamut and 244T is not, when I connect 244T on the same computer the wide gamut issue should be eliminated, should it not? I am not talking at this point about the "correct" color, but the same color in or out of Lightroom.
Unfortunately when you connect another monitor to a computer and don't calibrate or manually change it, Windows will not change the monitor profile. Macs will autodetect and change the profile but this innovation has not reached windows yet. The behavior you observe is caused by managed apps using the monitor profile and unmanaged apps not. If the monitor profile is not changed, the behavior doesn't change.
BTW, for a "cheap" software to be color space aware it does not need a quantum leap in technology I believe. It simply needs to know how to read the ICC profile and the LUT, is that correct?
It's extremely simple to program color management into apps. Standard API libraries have been available in Windows for over a decade. The reason why this hasn't happened is related to the fact that Microsoft hasn't made IE color managed and the software makers do not want to confuse folks when images look different in their program vs IE. Considering that this still is the biggest issue people wrongly complain about in every color managed application (just check Photoshop fora) that is maybe not that strange.

Save for the web colors

I was having trouble with image colors when I used 'save for the web' and I found a couple of solutions in tech notes regarding embedded color profiles but there is some thing I just don't understand.
It says:
"To ensure that colors are consistent in Photoshop, ImageReady and the Save for the Web dialog box, use an embedded color profile for display in each, or preview the image in Photoshop using the monitors RGB color space. Note that if you use an embedded color profile for display, colors may appear incorrectly if you view the image in an application that cannot read color profiles."
Can somebody give me the lowdown on what exactly a color profile is (what it does, when you should embed one etc) and some examples of the kind of application that can't read them i.e. if I send the photos via e-mail can the profile be read? put them on a web page?
Thanks for any illumination!
j.

A profile is a file that decribes to applications that can read them the color and tonal characteristics of a particular device. A profile can also be a mathematical description of a particular RGB or CMYK Lab color space. You've probably seen RGB working spaces in Photoshop referred to in terms like sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhoto RGB, etc. Any application that is color managed and can read and use profiles needs a minimum of two profile to to the job - a source profile and a destination profile. When you're looking at images on your computer monitor, the source is your RGB working space and the destination is your specific monitor. Photoshop uses both the working space profile and the monitor profile to display your image correctly. Most other applications in Windows do not read profile and have to assume either "Monitor RGB" or sRGB as the source for the file. If your file is not one of those, then false asumptioins are made and the image does not appear correctly. Some web browsers like Firefox 3 and Apple Safari do read profiles but not necessarily by default. You have to turn the option in FF. Some email readers are color managed, others not.
Profiles can be and usually are embedded in the document when you save it. Unless you have a good reason for not embedding a profile, it's almost always a good idea. It adds 4K to the file size and will let someone down the line who is using a color managed application see the file how you intended it. You have no control over the others, but that's life online. Currentlyl the best strategy is convert files destined for the web to sRGB and embed the profiles. That might change in the future, but it's a good place to be right now.

Colors off in Preview when viewing JPG's with sRGB profiles

I have a 30" Dell monitor and my display preferences are set to use the calibrated profile for it. When I view JPGs images in any color managed application such as Preview the colors are horribly off. They are kind of dull, unsaturated, pale. JPG's that don't have sRGB profiles show up fine.
I can fix the problem in photoshop by opening the image and then doing a save for web which strips the profile information off of the jpg.
If I use sRGB as my monitor's profile colors are consistent across all applications but the problem is the colors are really bad. Extremely over contrasty and very dark.
What's going on with my color profiles?

Hi topmodelphotography ..
If you're keen about running the right profiles - please don't mess up the way you do. The sRGB profile that you're using is showing a narrower color space (value 0-16 of blacks are out). The sRGB profile is mainly used for consumer monitors in the cheap end where contrast conditions are worse that expensive and professional displays to present contents in a similar way across manufacturers. If you should use any predefined color profile, please use Adobe (1998) profiling.
best practive is calibrating your monitor with a good calibrator and use these profiles.
In System Preferences you should set up the calibrated profile and the same goes for all Adobe apps under Color Settings.
Useful reading concerning Color Profiles:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=321382&sliceId=1
Your issue with Preview is most likely due to erroneous setup in System Settings. otherwise try and disable Dithering in Preview.
And don't use Save for Web if you intend to keep at least a minor part of your colors in your images. Use TIFF's where possible (without 'upgrading' images from compressed formats such as JPEG's, GIF's, etc.)
useful reading about Image compression:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_compression
Hope this answers some of you questions.

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