Combo update should be incremental?

I've had my battles with 10.5.2, and after my last attempt to update to the latest version, it DID show a 180MB incremental update for 10.5.2. Now, I run Software Update and it shows the Combo Update. If I did (and I won't because it just locks my machine up), wouldn't this wreak havoc with my machine? I checked Apple's download site, and there is not incremental update for 10.5.2.
Is there some cache I could clear that would allow for the proper updates to show?

Well... the /Library/Receipts folder holds details that the OS uses to know what's installed. This changed a bit with Leopard compared to Tiger but I believe the
/Library/Receipts/boms/com.apple.pkg.update.os.10.5.2.combo.bom
is the file that tells the OS that you have the 10.5.2 update installed. You could delete this file and try re-installing the update.
I would say, though, that if you're having issues you should go to apple.com/support/downloads and download the combo updater and install it manually. I wouldn't install an update to 10.5.2 that showed in software update if you already installed 10.5.2 via software update. Something's wonky and I'd use the combo update via manual install to deal with it.

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    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
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    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
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    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
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    4. Close all applications and turn off energy saving and screensaver.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
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    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
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    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
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    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
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    Full details about the 10.5.8 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606
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    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications.
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    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
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    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
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    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party add-on.
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