Complete arch (system) documentation?

Hi. I would like to have arch and it's mechanisms and infrastructure completely documented. Of course this could be quite a large task, but i think people like me (who like to read the manual before using stuff) would appreciate this, and it would also serve to leverage the overall knowledge of archlinux, so that less people would ask "stupid questions" (i don't mean it like that.. ) on the forums.
I also understand that this could realistically only be done for a "base" install arch system, as X11 and other applications/services go beyond the scope of such basic documentation.
The reason i would like this is because i couldn't find anything like this on the wiki, _and_, it would also be nice to have something compiled in a form you could print out. (ie without further references, but a compilation).

As far as a doc for experience users though i think that would be a waste, since most experienced users wouldn't need a doc to let them know how to edit a linux system.
Not the arch linux specifics, take the init system as an example. How, and what files are used. How to write your own init/daemon. Did you for example know that daemons get registered in /var/run daemons when succesfully started? And that rc.multi/functions is responsible for that (and how)? Or that rc.sysinit is resposible for setting you system locale?
Or how to use makepkg/makeworld in archlinux? Again, even if there already is a wiki entry about this, it should be a part of a compiled doc covering basic system maintenance in arch.
Some of the already present wiki articles (like setting up a network connection) though already existing, should be a part of this documentation. If necessary, expand them.

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