Compressor's output: every 15th frame is blurry

Every 15th frame in my MPEG2 (.mv2) file created by Compressor is blurry:
http://eidschun.fastmail.fm/Eidschun-Every15th_FrameBlurry.mpeg
My GOP settings are the default: closed, 15 in size, IBBP in structure.
My source footage is DV, shot in progressive mode. My sequence setting is progessive. I'm rendering to uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2. I'm exporting using current settings, with audio and video, with DVD SP markers, and as a self-contained movie.
Has anyone had this problem before? Does anyone have a solution?
Thanks.

Hi Steven,
See this discussion:
http://www.kenstone.net/discussions/read.php?3,13048,13048#msg-13048
Basically, I believe that the fundamental problem is with FCP, as it seems to be generating QT output that "confuses" Compressor.
Either of the three following "solutions" work for me:
1) GOP structure: IBBP
GOP type: closed
GOP size: 7
Two-pass VBR encode
2) GOP structure: IBBP
GOP type: closed
GOP size: 15
CBR encode
In fact, CBR encoding should work regardless of the GOP structure.
3) Do not export an entire Master Sequence. Instead, export each of its sub-Sequences individually,
encode each individually using Compressor, then concatenate the resulting MPEG2 files in DVD SP.
- Bob

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