Consolidation Group Changes Duplicate posting

Dear Experts,
Assume we have a consolidation Unit 1000 that belongs to group 1.1.2 and Group 1.1.2 belongs to Group 1.1.1 and group 1.1.1 belongs to group 1.1.0:
1.1.0
         1.1.1
                  1.1.2
                           (1000)
We want to dispose of consolidation Unit 1000. after selecting the divestiture date and period, I run the "CG Reported Fin Data" Task:
The system reverses the BS items 3 times: First it creates a document with Group 1.1.0 reversing all the BS Items and 2 additional documents for 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 Groups.
As a result the balance on the FS item is credited or debited for 3 times instead of 1 time. The lower the consolidation unit level in the hierarchy the more documents are created.
I can't find the logic behind the system behavior and I hope someone can clarify this issue for me.
Thank you,
Jawad

Hi Beatriz and welcome to SDN!
This error message means that your net profit in P&L differs from retained erarnings in balance sheet (they are both, the special/selected items in the system settings) on this amount 12610,12. Most likely, you didn't proper define the special items.
Here is some info how the special items work:
When is 'Clearing Balance Sheet' and 'Clearing Inc Stmt item' used?
Hope this helps.

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SEM-BCS Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes

Hi All,
Is the task "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" only implemented when Consolidation of Investments has also been implemented?
Does "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" have any value on its own?
Any comments, replies or suggestions most welcome.

Hi,
I think that prep for cons group changes is independent (but supplementary to) from CoI.
See what is said in help:
"When in the middle of a fiscal year a consolidation unit is either acquired by a consolidation group (acquisition), divested from a consolidation group (divestiture), or <b>changes its accounting technique</b> (method change), the following data must be adjusted:
- Reported financial data
- Standardized financial data
- Consolidated data with posting level 20"
As you can see, not only consolidated data are to be changed, but also Standardized and Reported.
Moreover, as is seen above, changes of accounting technique will also trigger such activities.
So, my answers:
1. No
2. Yes.
Best regards,
Eugene

Consolidation group change: Balance sheet/income statement balance 14,560

Dear All,
While performing the consolidation group change task, system throws the error message :
Balance sheet/income statement balance 14,560,497.62- INR
Message no. UCD1011
Diagnosis
The document to be posted is not completely in balance.
Entries involving items of the balance sheet or the income statement must always have a zero balance to ensure that both the balance sheet and the income statement are balanced, respectively. This is not true in this case.
System Response
Entry cannot be posted.
Procedure
Correct the amounts for the balance sheet items and/or income statement items.
I have checked the COI Settings and not showing any error.
I have analysed the problem and found that system is not picking one FS item 107501 i.e Profit and Loss CY.
Can any one suggest me how to resolve this.
Thanks in advance.
G Vinod

Hi DAN,
i ll elaborate what i wanted to convey.
When we upload
1. TB Equal to ZERO
2. Net of BS items may not be equal to ZERO
Eg: if September 2010 (FY is April to Mar) file is being uploaded, the profit till the period September will be in PL items. so to the extent of profit element will be the difference in BS Items.
when u run profit calculation task, after data upload and validation, system will pass the following entry,
In case of Loss:
BS - Profit and loss - CY -           Dr
PL- Profit before MI         -          Cr
BS- BS Clearing A/c                     Cr
PL - PL Clearing A/c                    Dr
when u run PCC, system ll pick these two items *BS - Profit and loss - CY and BS- BS Clearing A/c. so obviously, posting cannot be done.
Please tell me if u still not understand
Thanks and Regards,
G Vinod

Consolidation group change without ownership change

Hi All,
I require help in resolving this particular issue.
I have a company called 1000 which is having a subsidiary called 5010. both of the fall under the same consolidiation group called CG1.
Now I have run the First consolidation as of March 2009 and carry forwarded the balances in 2009.
Now 5010 has invested in 6 more companies and has become a holding company to them.
Now I thought of two options
1. To just create these 6 companies and enter the investment details for these companies and run the COI.
2. To create a new consolidation group called CG2. Put the 5010 company along with its 6 newly acquired subsidiaries under this consoldation group.
I ma exercising the option 2 by creating a new consolidation group as it will easy to get the reports at CG2 level.
As you can observe there has been no transfer of investment happening here. How do i take care of such a situation.
I read the posts regarding the Consolidation group changes but all posts were dealing with change in ownership happening. In my case there is no change in ownership as 1000 still continues to be the holding company. But only difference is that earlier 5010 was existing as a end node but now It has to have a consolidation group of its own where in it will have the holding company 5010 along with its 6 subsidiaries.
Pl give me a solution.
Thanks in advance.
Shivaprasad

facts of the scenario
1. Did first consolidation in period 012.2008
2. There is a company 5510 which belongs to CG1 as of first consolidation which was in period 012.2008
3. 5510 has invested in 6 new companies in period 003.2009
4. I want to create a new consolidation group CG2 and put the existing company 5510 along with 6 new companies under this group (client requirement)
5. I created a new consolidation group CG2 and assigned the company 5510 to this group along with 6 new companies
6. In consolidation group CG1 mentioned the divesture period as 003.2009 (DABP ticked) for 5510 company
7. in Consolidation group CG2 mentioned the First consolidation period as 003.2009 (FCEP unticked) against 5510 company
8. The figures are not accurate at the CG2 group level.
Should I be doing anything else apart from the above steps.
Will appreciate a fast reply as it is stopping the go-live
Thanks in advance
Shivaprasad

Consolidation Group Change and Consolidation Activity

Hi Experts,
I am new in SAP consolidation, I have a question regarding the difference between the function "consolidation group change" and "consolidation activity".
If I read in the sap library, these 2 functions are separated, but if I look at the content, I saw some similarity where the consolidation group change also included the investment activity like acquisition and divestiture.
Could anyone explain what are the difference between these 2 function?
When I was a user, if the group acquiered a new cons unit, I just add a new cons unit in the consolidation group hierarchy, assign consolidation method, add the additional financial data for the ownership percentage (activity = first consolidation), enter the reported financial data, run CI function and add one more column in my report painter.
When I read SAP library, I saw the "consolidation group change" function talking about the consolidation activity, now I wonder, what are the difference? What is the business scenario for using the "normal" CI activity and the "consolidation group change"? Please anyone advise. Thank you.
regards,

Normal C/I is a regular acquisition or divestiture. Cons Group Change could be movement of a company from one consolidation group to another (i.e., parent A sells company 1 to parent B). Or you own a company 20% and purchase an additional 60% and must switch accounting technique from Equity to Purchase. BCS will need to book Cons Group Change entries to account for the acct technique change. (In the past, at 20%, you would only book equity pickup, or equitization entries, to the parent as PL30 adjustments in the CoI. Now you must bring in the complete balances of the company due to purchase method of consolidation. BCS books consolidation-group specific adjustments to do this.)
Example....
"Normal C/I activity"
New company A needs be consolidated in Cons Group 1 starting in 03/2007. Add the company to the Cons Group master data, set the accounting technique, update additional financial data w/ activity First consolidation and load data for the new company. Run COI
"Cons Group Change"
Company A is consolidated in Cons Group 1, but starting in 06/2007 they will be sold to a parent in Cons Group 2. Update the Cons Group master data...setting company A to divest in 06/2007 from CG1 and to First Consolidate in CG2 starting in 06/2007. If using Org Change logic, create an Org Change number and define a sender/receiver relationship for CG1 --> CG2. In additional financial data, create a total transfer activity w/ org change logic from CG1 to CG2. Run Org Change task and BCS will zero out balance sheet related to company A in CG1 on posting level 02/12/22. In CG2, similar postings will book "catch up" entries in 06/2007 to bring full balance sheet into CG2. In CoI, company will be transferred to new parent.
Hopefully that makes sense...
Chris

COI not reading equity data after consolidation group change

Dear experts,
I am running the consolidation of investments task for a new group that has been created on 012.2009. This new group CG2 is a child of an existing one CG1, and all the consolidation units that I have in 012.2009 under CG2 were in 012.2008 under the CG1.
In my new group GC2 all the units have as first consolidation period 012.2009 and on the parent group they have as last consolidation period 012.2009.
The problem is that when I run the COI task the system does not read the equity data for these consolidation units. I have both, equity data and Investment data defined to be read from additional financial data. The system reads correctly the investment data for the parent consolidation unit, and tries to eliminate it, but as it does not read the equity data of the child so it takes the value to consolidation a difference, that is incorrect.
Does anyone know what I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Sónia

Hi Sonia
i dont want to confuse you as Dan is guiding so far. let me put my thoughts some here.
CG1 12/2008
   - CU - A    Parent    12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU- B                   12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU - C                  12/2008 to 999/9999
do you have any another sub node for CU-B and CU-C? as B has investment in C
New Group: 12/2009
CG1
   - CU -A    12/08 to 999/9999
   - CU - B    12/08 to 12/9999
   - CU - C     12/08 to 12/2009
   CG2 group supose to be like this
CG1
    -CU-A
    -CU-B
       I--- CG2
             CU - B   Parent 12/09 to 999/9999
             CU - C                12/09 to 999/9999
     - CU-C
Now with above scenario you can invest in C from B and system will treate as FIRST CONSOLIDATION based on AFD Investments/Equity
How did you maintain B investments in C at CG1 12/08 level?
and or    as per Dan
You have to run PREP for CONSOLIDATION GROUP CHANGE task before CT task and after Elim Taks but before COI task
thx

Standardizing entries:Consolidation Group Change

Hi,
We have document type of posting level 12, to reverse the document type of posting level 10 (standardizing entries) when consolidation unit change the group or leaves the group.
When group change task is executed, the balance becomes zero.
However, when balance carryforward is executed, the Document type of posting level 12 is not carried forward to next year. This results in balance appearing in the accounts where postings were madeat posting level 10 in the last year.
Please advise.
Regards,
UR

Can you confirm you see the PL10 entries if you run a list of totals records, standard reporting logic, and the consolidation group where the entity previously existed?
If you have PL10 balance sheet activity for 00 - 03/2007 and divest in 04/2007, the system books the PL12 in 04 to write down these balances. In the "Standard" reporting logic, the system will look for all 00, 01, and 10's for company XYZ between 00/2007 and 04/2007 --> those are the dates when the company was a member of the consolidation group.
When you do a BCF to 2008, the PL12 should not carry forward. When reporting on 01/2008, for example, "Standard" logic will see that company XYZ was divested in 04/2007 and will look for any postings related to that company. The PL12's are only needed during the year in which the company was divested.
Note that you can keep feeding balances to the company and the system will keep booking intercompany eliminations, etc. But as long as you have the master data and AFD set correctly, that company should not appear in the consolidated reports.
- Chris

Execution of preparation for consolidation group changes

Hello,
In 1/2011 there was a change in the consolidation units hierarchy.
A consolidation unit moved to upper consolidation group.
I cannot find in the master data of the consolidation unit , where should I update the FIRST CONSOLIDATION DATE,
and the LAST CONSOLIDATION DATE.
Best regards,
Odelia Volfovich.

Look at the master data of the cons groups - both the initial cons group as well as the new cons group.
If this truly is a vertical move up the hierarchy, the initial cons group should have a period of divestiture, as 001/2011.
Because the cons unit has always been a part of the higher up cons group via the lower cons groups ownership, the new cons group should have period of first consolidation the same as that of the initial cons group.
The cons unit should remain in both cons groups until at least the end of the fiscal year and in many cases, depending on the reporting needs for year-over-year comparison reporting, it should remain for an additional year or more.

Consolidation Group Changes

Dear Team,
Through support I can resolve Issues ASAP, Once again Thanks a lot.
I need Information, in my client Cons Unit Hierarchy Structure as under:
For Example:
We have the following Structure
Cons Group Q1 ---> Cons Unit A, B
Cons Group Q2 --> Cons Unit C, F
Cons Group Q3 --> Cons unit D and Cons Unit E
In current Period Cons unit E removed from Cons Group Q3 and added in Cons Group Q2 and also need not maintain Cons Group Q3, and assign Cons Unit D to Cons Group Q1
Expected Hierarchy:
Cons Group Q1 ---> Cons Unit A, B and D
Cons Group Q2 ---> Cons Unit C, F and E
I suggest to run Task Cons Group Change, and there is no COI in my client. Give me suggestion what procedure I have to follow for this either Acquisition, Divestiture for the above.
Thanks & Regards
madhu

To move cons unit E from Group Q3 to Cons group Q2, add E to cons group Q2 without removing it from Q3. Then in the cons group master data for cons group Q3 indicate the period of divestiture for cons unit E. For the cons group Q2 master data should automatically include cons unit E with period of first consolidation per the period when it was added.

BCS - Divestiture consolidation group change

Is there a FM module that would tell me when a company was divested and what the new consolidation group would be?
I'm not a BCS consultant.

There may not be a FM for this.
When you define the consolidation units and consolidation group in BCS in the context of consolidating investments and eliminating inter comoany diviidends.
Even there, you may not get the date on which the disinvesment took place. Consolidation of investments will be carried on a "given day" on which the Balance sheet and BS are drawn.
Ravi Thothadri

Preparation for Consolidation group changes

Hi Experts,
I have worked on BCS but new to consolidation of investments and PCC.
I am not able to understand the Preparation for Consolidation (PCC) tasks as to why are they required. I've the following questions: -
1. SAP help says PCC tasks are supplementary to the C/I tasks. Could you elaborate on how are the suuplementary to C/I tasks?
2. What is the diff. between Acuisition in case of C/I and in case of PCC?
3. In terms of reporting what will go worng if we don't run PCC tasks after a new acquisition let say.
Thanks in advance,
SSC

1. PCC creates records to offset the balance sheet balances upon divestiture. These records include the relevant cons group values, where most BCS records do not include cons group because cons group in most cases is determined dynamically via the BCS virtual infocube function module's consolidations logic.
2. PCC records and documents only occur when there is a divestiture in the master data for a cons group. This could occur for a divestiture or transfer activity. Acquisition does not affect PCC, except when it occurs as a result of a transfer, and it is relevant to the divestiture portion of the transfer as opposed to the acquisition portion.
3. Nothing after an acquisition, it is mainly for divestitures and transfers (where a divestiture is necessary in the cons group master data).

Cons Group Changes & Divestiture with Equity Holdings

In the scenario with cons unit hierarchy below, company A is the parent of company B and B is the parent of C and D. B is accounted for using purchase method, while C and D are equity method.
Cons Group A
     Cons unit A
     Cons group B
          Cons unit B
          Cons unit C
          Cons unit D
Company B is sold, along with its subsidiaries C and D. In periods previous to the divestiture, there are intercompany transactions between B, C and D, for which eliminations are recorded at posting level 20. For standard reporting these eliminations are ignored for both cons groups A and B due to C and D using equity method.
In Cons of Investment settings, Posting level 20 records are not included in location of values, calculation base.
In the period of divestiture, the cons group changes for posting level 22 are created. However, these are recorded directly to cons group B, and are therefore also included in reporting for cons group A. This is causing a problem because the reports exclude the level 20 records but include the offsetting level 22 records.
Has anyone dealt with this and if so how?
Am I missing something?
Thanks for any experiences relating to this and/or suggestions!
Dan

Just extending the same point,
system will generate the 22 PL records where in both
consolidation unit and partner unit of the group participating
in eliminations follow purchase method.
In your case B (parent company ) is following purchase
method and investee are following equity method.
so 22 PL records are not expected.
since it happened other way , some wild idea may be to check
whether there is any method change during consolidation
interval.

Total Transfer between paralel consolidation groups

Hello Gurus!
We are using SEM-BCS for legal consolidation of our consolidation hierarchy. The hierarchy stands as shown below in 04.2014:
CG00
     CU000
      CG20
          CU005
          CU001
     CG01
          CG19
               CU018
     CG02
     CG03
In period 04.2014, we have to make a transfer of one consolidation unit (CU001) from consolidation group CG19 to CG20.
In consolidation group CG19 in 03.2014, company CU001 is hold at 100% by consolidation unit CU018.
In consolidation group CG20 in 04.2014, company CU001 is transferred to this consolidation group, as well as the participation (100% of the shares) from company CU018 to company CU005.
The holding of the hierarchy is CU000 in CG00.
To execute the transfer, we created organizational change company and organizational change number in the master data tab. Afterwards, company CU001 was changed from consolidation group CG19 to CG20. In the company CU001 we set the mark for first consolidation with organizational change and indicated the ID of the organizational change.
After this definitions in the master data tab, we executed the task for consolidation group changes, obtaining the following result:
Balance sheet items were correctly posted in group CG20, as this the destination group of the transfer. But on the other hand, the elimination from the previous consolidation group (CG19) is being wrongly executed, as the elimination is being executed in consolidation group CG00, when this should be posted in CG19.
Could you help us understand what is being wrongly made, for the post being made in CG00 and not in CG19.
Thanks in advanced.

Thank you for your reply Dan.
Responding to your questions:
1) The operation wasn't made with indication of divestiture in period 004/2014. However I tried to test it with that indicator (divestiture with OC), and the results weren't diferent from the ones i'm obtain now.
2) The consolidation group changes were executed.
3) The whole balance sheet accounts. The consolidation group changes were executed at levels 02, 12 and 22.

New Consolidation Group with existing unit

Hi,
Below is the hierarcy structure of Consolidation Units where Unit A is topmost Parent Company.
CG01
-Unit A
-Unit B
-Unit C
-CG02
    -Unit X
    -Unit Y
We want to add one new group which should contain only Unit A & Unit B during the financial year say07/2008 and it should like like as follows:
CG01
-Unit C
   -CG09
    -Unit A
    -Unit B
   -CG02
     -Unit X
     -Unit Y
Following steps, I have taken:
1-Created New group in 07/2008
2-Assigend Unit A and B in CG09 in period 07/2008 as 07/2008 their first period of consolidation
3-In CG01, changed the master data for Unit A and Unit B to indicate last period of consolidation as 07/2008
I would need your help:
-Is this correct way of creating new group with the existing unit?
-Do I need to remove the Unit A & B from the old group CG01 and if yes then in which period?
-Any other suggestion in the context?
Thanks,
UR

Thanks Dan,
It works fine with the above suggestion. In period 07/2008 group change task post Divestiture entry in old group and acquisition entry in new group.
However, before arriving at the above solution, we tested with one unit by removing it from the old Group hierarchy in 07/2008. Now even after I put this back in the old hiearchy and make all the above changes (divestiture seeting in 07/2008 in old group and FC in 07/2008 in new group) the Group changes task in not posting any divestiture entries. At the same time, it is posting acquisition entry for this unit.
Can you please suggest some way out?
Best Regards,
UR

BCS 604 SP6 - Change to Consolidation Group extra features

Hi All,
We've upgraded from SP0 to SP6 and noticed some new options for CCG config:
IN UCWB we have rthe following new options:
1. under Consolidation area --> Settings --> Consolidation Functions used, we have:
(checkbox) Separation of Goodwill from Investment (ERP 2005)
2. Under Changes to Consolidation group we had:
- Selected Items
- Task
- Document Type
- System Utilization - NEW
> (checkbox) Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture
Help on "1" reveals:
If you select this checkbox, you enable the separation of goodwill from the investment relationship.
Use
If the Separation of Goodwill from Investment function is active, you can manually enter a goodwill entry on a separate consolidation unit for the Reclassification of Treasury Stock activity. The system does not post a minority interest to effects from valuation allowance or currency translation. The system suppresses the posting of minority interests on the assumption that no investment and equity data exist for a separate consolidation unit for which you have entered a manual goodwill entry. (However, the system does not check whether investment and equity data on the separate consolidation unit really do not exist.)
Help on "2":
Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture
If you select this checkbox, you enable the system to post the other comprehensive income in the Total Divestiture activity with an effect on net income.
Use
If the Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture function is active, the system posts the group value of the other comprehensive income in total divestiture to the income statement.
Dependencies
You define the items for other comprehensive income as a subset of the equity items in Equity Data Customizing on the Other Comprehensive Income tab page. You specify there for each item for other comprehensive income the relevant posting item in the income statement.
Anyone used either of these extra features,
found them useful, any problems?

I have not used the 1st "Separation of Goodwill".
The second feature is needed when Cons of Investment (COI) is not used. I actually configured Cons Grp Chgs with this and subsequently implemented COI in the same system. What happened is that this feature disappeared from Cons Grp Chgs and reappeared in COI > Settings > Appropriation of Retained Earnings.
I hope this helps.

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