Container operations and abstract interfaces

Hi
At first, could somebody maybe refer to blogs about how to exploit fault messages in BPM? (how to generate an fault response when a exception is thrown and handled)
As I could not find a fast way to see how fault messages work in BPM I tried to solve the problem the other way... but run into a problem again. The question is: is it possible to assign values to some elements in an abstract interface type container? Like put into the message a processing code, processing time or some other informative text.
In a more technical way: container operation allows only the whole container to be the target of the operation, while one can use any part of an container (of abstract interface) to use as the source of operation. Is it also possible to assign a value to a element in abstract interface?
Waiting for any ideas...

Hi
Thanks for Your answer. Still my question is unanswered. As You could read out from my question, I know that such a step exists but the problem is that target can be exactly one container. Its hard to make an example without too much of code samples.
I agree that if I have containers A and B then I can do:
A = B
But if A is of type abstract interface with structure:
rootNode
+ childNode1
+ anElement as xsd:string
+ childNode2
and B is a simple type then is it possible to do something like:
A:/rootNode/childNode1/anElement = B
As I don't want to change anything else in the response. Any ideas?
I need to do so because I am not able to throw fault messages as a synchronous interface response (first: there is no way to define fault type as abstract interface, second: send [close S/A bridge] step needs response message only).
Another way would be to replace response content by inserting fault information but as there is no way but message mappings (transformation step) to change the content of an abstract interface (is there?). It would be a very ugly solution - each fault in BPM shall have its own mapping that generates the whole message... and there would be other issues too.
Waiting for any ideas on how to solve the problem.
Any recomendations how to create a SOAP fault answer in BPM are also welcome!

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hi,
try saving and activating the abstract interfaces
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Thank you

Hi,
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Message was edited by: Ganges Leaves

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/people/sriram.vasudevan3/blog/2005/01/11/demonstrating-use-of-synchronous-asynchronous-bridge-to-integrate-synchronous-and-asynchronous-systems-using-ccbpm-in-sap-xi
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Hi, Don't worry I am teach you
Abstract class and Interface
An abstract class can have instance methods that implement a default behavior. An Interface can only declare constants and instance methods, but cannot implement default behavior and all methods are implicitly abstract. An interface has all public members and no implementation. An abstract class is a class which may have the usual flavors of class members (private, protected, etc.), but has some abstract methods.
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