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The EFI ROM doesn't support yours. i know, apple can update Mac pro 2.66MHZ EFI ROM can support GeForce 8800GT display card?? i am very like this card, if can't use this model is bad taste. why my computer can boot PC is work?
Thx!!!

In a previous statement well noted Mr Steve Jobs did indeed say that they are working on such a graphic card.
Im amazed that it takes so long, Im very weiry of Apple, strange that Apple are so quite about it.
No one on this forum from Apple has any idea about the progress, and for that reason, we have to think that Steve Jobs may not be able to deliver a Mac Pro 1 8800gt card.
That would really annoy thousands of people, especially when these Pro's are meant to expandable.

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Does NVidia GeForce 8800GT have a heat problem?

I have an older heavy-duty Mac Pro running with 8-core Intel 3.2Ghz Xeon processors and 18GBytes RAM, using an NVidia GeForce 8800GT display controller driving a 30' Apple Cinema display. After the Mac Pro has been on for half a day the white semitranslucent bars start to appear and gradually the screen goes to nearly all white if I leave it on long enough. In about an hour after I turn it off, the display is fine.
What component is the likely cause of this behavior? I do not hear any fan noise. Should I?
I have seen other reports of heat problems with temperatures and fan speeds mentioned. How do I find this out for the Mac Pro? MacOS verion is 10.6.3.

Less than 80ºC (load) is desired, but up to 85ºC may be seen. A good cooler would keep the processor down in the mid 60's to mid 70's under load.
Prolonged temps at and above the mid 90's will reduce component life.
Certainly temps over 100ºC would be terminal in the long run.
One would hope to see the card run between 50ºC at idle and no higher than the mid 80's under load.
Lower load temps (mid 70's) are better.......
The 8800 GT is getting old. Any card approaching or exceeding 5 years of use should have the thermal compound replaced.
All fan equipped graphics cards need to be kept clean and dust free. A dust clogged heat exchanger is almost as bad as no cooler at all.

Duel Monitor Calibration with the NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT

I have ordered a Mac Pro with a NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT and would like to know whether it supports dual LUT's? I have also ordered two 30" ACDs and would like them both calibrated for photo editing work in Aperture.
Looked at the NVIDIA site but couldn't see the answer.
Many thanks...

In short, no. The only way to get a LUT for each monitor is for each to have its own GPU. Having said that, I have the Radeon 1900XT driving 2-21" LCDs and have managed to get them really darn close with a good calibrator. If it's really important for you, buy a second card.
This is from the Nvidia knowledge base and the answer is the same for Macs.
+"Windows XP detects NVIDIA GPUs as a single processor even if the GPU supports dual monitors. This prevents the operating system from natively allowing two separate ICC profiles from being used on a single graphics card. This is not a problem if a user is running dual monitors and each monitor is running on a separate GPU.+
+Microsoft has provided a utility for users with two monitors running off of a single GPU who wish to calibrate both monitors. You may download this utility from the following URL:+
+http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/prophoto/colorcontro l.mspx+

Nvidia GeForce 8800GT- with CHOKE?

My graphics card bit the dust
And Apple Care asked me if I wanted the replacement to be "with choke". They swore up and down that there is "no performance difference" or "performance loss"… but I can't find much information about this feature online.
Any ideas? Opinions? Bad jokes?

Hello SG2020,
I would take a look at this article named Power Mac G5 (Late 2005) and Mac Pro (all models): Graphics card compatibility between models found here http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2848
Graphics cards for Mac Pro (Early 2008)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (part number 630-9191 or 630-9897)
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
ATI Radeon HD 4870, offered as an upgrade kit
Note: The Radeon HD 4870 card requires Mac OS X v10.5.7 or later for use with the Mac Pro (Early 2008).
All the best,
Sterling

NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800GT in Mac Pro 08 machine

I recently posted a question about my Mac Pro's kernel panic issue on startup. After a call with AppleCare they determined it was a hardware issue. Since I no longer have AppleCare I took it to a local shop that is certified to work on Macs.
Their conclusion was that the video card went bad.
Now I know there is a recall/issue out on Macbook Pros with NVIDIA cards... however, it seems like there was never anything posted with Mac Pros. Obviously this being 3 years since I bought the machine warranties won't cover it. I've used my machine for art/design, so I was a little surprised when I wake up and I have no visual.
Is there a known issue or any coverage for this hardware defect?
I wanted to check her on the forums as none of my tech friends have worked on Macs, and the video cards for Macs are way more than the ones for PCs. As a last attempt I plan to bake the card in the oven, which a surprising number of users have had to do (all having their card for roughly the same time period and they just stop working).
Was 2008 just a bad year for NVIDIA?
Just seems odd that there is a known fix for this video card that multiple people have had to resort to, but there is no mention of NVIDIA acknowleding the issue. (Or maybe there is and I haven't stumbled across it on the web).
Any info is highly and greatly appreciated, thanks guys.

I've wondered the same thing myself about the issues with the nVidia chips from the '08 machines. I have a MacPro 3,1 that I got in late March '08 with the 8800GT. I had AppleCare and had several issues with my MacPro during those three years. The first problem I had was I started to get graphics corruption on the boot screen and regular kernal panics. Apple replaced the graphics card and everything seemed to be ok after that for a while. Then something happened where the computer would not power up at all. No lights, no fans, just completely dead. I suspected it was just a dead PSU however after seeing the repair reciept I was really supprised at what they needed to replace. Apple needed to replace both CPU's, the Memory, Logic Board, PSU, & Graphics Card. So it was esentially a completely new machine in an old case.
Now I'm having the same issue as before with the 8800GT having graphics corruption. I can't boot into OSX at all with out it crashing the system. I also get a BSOD when trying to load into Windows 7 via bootcamp. I remember Apple releasing an update to the 8800GT's EFI shortly after I got the MacPro when all the hoopla surrounding the mobile chips what going on. This patch seemed to slightly underclock (maybe undervolting) the GPU and increased the fan profile.
As it stands now I guess I'm just going to have to look for a replacement card. I think I'm going to switch to ATI/AMD at this point. I found the Sapphire makes a newer Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition, has a bit of a price premium for a year old card but it's definitely better than spending alsmost the same ammount on the Radeon HS 5870.

Nvidia GeForce 8800GT

What's OpenCL do?

I prefer Wikipedia: OpenCL article.
CUDA is something that Nvidia has had around, PhysX as well, and Adobe teamed up with Nvidia with CS4 for Windows (64-bit app, at least in part) already off loading work.
Decryption, scientific, and anything that can be done in parallel is prime candidate.

Upgraded nVidia GeForce 8800GTS Driver--Premiere Runs Slow Now

For four years, I was running the same nVidia driver and Premiere and other apps ran fine.
Recently though, a project I'm working on for a client required me to add some new fonts to my workstations. Adding these fonts, or any fonts at all, would work fine until the next reboot, at which point Windows XP would just BSOD with a fault in win32k.sys. A partition restore was necessary to bring back useful system.
After some research, it was suggested that I update the video driver. I did this, installing the current 285.58 version after uninstalling the old version, rebooting, then doing a clean installation. That solved the font problem--I can install fonts and reboot and the system comes up fine. But there's a new problem: GUI acceleration is disabled in Adobe and Quark applications.. The GUI takes several seconds to paint the screen now, and I cannot play video in Premiere anymore without severe sluggishness and dropping of most of the frames. Even QuarkXpress 8 is unusable, taking 6 seconds to paint just the rulers around a page! Any time I move something, the system refuses to accept input and the mouse pointer freezes and stutters for several seconds until the screen is done repainting.
I haven't seen these sort of problems since 1990, when I had my Diamond Speedstar VGA card on ISA 8-bit bus.
Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, or what is the most recent Adobe approved nVidia 8800 driver version? I can't work like this. But I can't install the fonts my client needs when the old driver is installed because of the BSOD after rebooting.

Mark,
Though I have personally not had issues with new drivers, I always try to keep a few nVidia drivers tucked away, just in case. However, and from time to time, others have hit upon "bad" drivers, and either a roll-back, or patience, until a new "good" driver is released, has helped them.
I also do not update my nVidia drivers all that often, and usually only when I begin experiencing a problem.
Good luck, and that BSOD is scary. While most BSOD's are hardware related, a system driver certainly CAN cause them too. On my workstation, all that I can recall HAVE been triggered by drivers, and most of those for something like a Maxtor external. I do not use their "one-button backup" function, but the drivers for that do get installed, and sometimes act up. I suppose that was once a good idea, but has bitten me a few times in the past.
Good luck, and wish that I had something that would help you. Please report how things go.
Hunt

Will MSI NVidia GeForce 8800GT OC work with my mobo

hi could anyone please tell me if this card will work with my motherboard cos i have read a lot of reviews that say only work with 3 out of 5 mobo , i have the gigabyte s series ga-m57sli-s4 mobo it has 2 x pcie x16 . if it is possible could you get back to me today because i ordered them last night before reading the review . Thanks . Daniel

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NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB vs. 256MB - MEMORY QUESTION

how much difference will i see between the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB of GDDR3 memory, and the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory??
i will be doing HD editing on FCP.

All FX Plug class effects in FCP will benefit with that beefier card. Also Motion and Color will benefit. You'll see a smother preview in Motion, and faster renders in Color. In FCP, you'll see more RT playback of unrendered effects if they are the FX class effects as well. Go with the beefier card. It will only serve you down the line too. The movement in software architecture is to offload CPU cycles to GPU cycles, and will continue to go that way as far as I can see, so the beefier card will pay for itself down the line too. Do it now, and it will cost less as well.
Jerry

Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT question

Is anyone running Vista 32 bit using Bootcamp on their SR MBP with the Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT?
I ran a vista compatibility scan on the MBP and it said that the card would not work in Vista.
I am curious whether this is true or whether others with the same hardware are able to do it ok.
Thanks for any advice.

Hi Luis,
Yes, I am running Vista via Boot Camp on my Early 2008 MBP (SR with 8600 GT). The drivers were included on my restore DVD. You shouldn't have a problem. Good luck!
Rich S.

Ere are the specs on the Mac I need more power on. Mac Tower Processor 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Memory 6 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512 MB Serial Number H00354XF20G Software OS X 10.8.5 (12F45) Harddive 640 GB SATA

ere are the specs on the Mac I need more power on.
Mac Tower
Processor 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Memory 6 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512 MB
Serial Number H00354XF20G
Software OS X 10.8.5 (12F45)
Harddive 640 GB
SATA Disk
(2) Harddrives 1 TB
SATA Disk
RAM 6 slots total -- 6 are filled with 1GB
(3) UAD Quad cards installed
I use this computer stictly for audio recording.
Pro Tools 10.3.7
Interface Apollo 16
Pro Tools is curretnly not compatible with Maverick. Also, I believe that Pro Tools 10 only allows 4GB ram to be utilized (not sure )
I know Pro Tools 11 allows more, but not sure how much more. Also not sure if the upgrade to Pro Tools 11 I will have to purchase all new plug ins or if my existing ones will continue to work in it.
The platform changes from 32 bit to 64 with the upgrade to 11
If it is as simple as adding more ram, what mode-part #l would you recomeend. Can the processor be upgraded also ?
The new tube like Macs are non compatible with UAD Cards. Those cards a must my sessions

You can use Activity Monitor to check if apps run as 32 or 64 bit - simply look at the "Kind" column (you may need to select it under View -> Columns) and see if the app in question is listed as "Intel" i.e. 32 bit or as "Intel (64 bit)".
While in Activity Monitor you can also check if Pro Tools is close to the 3-4 GB limit of a 32 bit app - if you aren't you will probably not benefit from more RAM.
Your MacPro (it appears to be a Early 2009 model) should have come with a small booklet showing how to install RAM and what kind of RAM that you need. Any RAM that fulfills the requirements should work but your safest choice is probably to buy from a retailer/online store that supports Macs as they will usually know what kind of RAM you need for your mac model.
Upgrading the CPUs should be possible, but I haven't seen Apple document how to do this, so you will probably have to google around a bit to find instructions and CPU part numbers.
Your choice of CPUs will also be limited by the motherboard and CPU socket so you may be limited to faster version of your current CPU chip and some slightly newer versions.
Going from your current CPU to the fastest version included in the 2009 MacPros would be going from 2.26 GHz to 2.93 GHz. This would only give a modest 30% speed boost. Using newer and highly clocked CPUs might boost this somewhat more maybe to 50% ?

Macbook Pro 4,1 - NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT

So, over the last 2 years, I very rarely used my Mac. I had my work laptop, iphone and iPad. In the last few weeks I started using the laptop
for running the INSANITY workout videos(MP4) during my workout. Sunday, June 30, during my early morning workout, the laptop screen
scrambles like a checkerboard and froze. I could still hear the audio, but the video was gone. A minute later, the laptop shutdown and reboot with message
"Your computer restarted becasuse of a problem. Press a key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up." (displayed in 6 languages)
After a few reboots the sytem would come back up, but only for about 5 minutes, then same message.
Today, Tuesday, I finally found the discs my system shipped with (10.5x), so I was able to run Apple Hardware Test
(currently running Mountain Lion/ software Download)
I checked box for extended testing. Total test time 1 hour 54 mins 52 secs,
Test Results
Alert: Apple Hardware Test has detected an error
4VDC/1/40000003: VideoController
I google 4VDC and find
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2377
"The NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor repair extension program ended on December 7, 2012. This program provided extended repair coverage for a period of four years from the date of purchase, and as of Dec 7th 2012, it is unlikely products qualify for this extended repair coverage."
Oops, missed the free repair by 6 months, paperweight :-)
Thanks for reading, happy 4th of July all.

Ok, Kaz & Grant, took your advice and went to local apple store. The tech ran their video checker, looked like a small black external hdd labled GPT that he plugged in. After the video fail, he said it "could" be the video card or the logic board. He was familiar with the repair program but dismissed it because he said it had expired for me in September 2012.
Issue: Garbled video on screen
Steps to Reproduce: Ran Graphics Process Test, failed.
Proposed Resolution: Depot for new logic board
Cosmetic Condition: Sticker on clamshell
Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you in 3 - 5 days
Mac OS Version: 10.8.4
Hard Drive Size: 200GB
Memory Size: 4GB
iLife Version: 09
Repair Estimate
Item Number
Description
Price
Amount Due
S1580LL/A
Flat Rate Repair Charge, PBG4/MBP15"
$ 210.00
$ 210.00
S1586LL/A
Labor Charge, PBG4/MBP15"
$ 100.00
$ 100.00
Total (Tax not included)
$ 310.00
$ 310.00
FYI, this is the sticker on clamshell

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT vs. NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

I just have a PC vs. Mac question, as I am looking at the new MacBook Pros. Which of the following NVIDIA processors is the best for intense graphic applications? Why does Mac only have 1 option, and is it superior to the PC options?
PC
NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
NVIDIA QUADRO NVS 140M
Mac
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
Many thanks!

what do you want to do with such devices, work, play, and specifically which software?
usability is often ignored by people who get swayed by paper-based specs, and it is important to know what you are going to do with a machine before making up your mind, not just which processor and hardware has a .01 percent coolness factor above the other.
I am somewhat biased, for I have developed an intense distrust, disenchantment, and pretty much an aversion to what you would call "PC" software and OSes. Twenty years of DOS and Windows have left me no fond memory, if not for the fact that I know how to fix a lot of software and hardware problems (you learn when you are constantly confronted to problems, and problems abound in the world of Windows).
A Macbook Pro is a beautiful machine, and it is hassle free a good 90%+ of the time, you can install Windows if you must anyhow, but Apple doesn't sell for cheap. Mind you, most high-end PCs do not cost much less anyhow, just the low end ones.
The 8600M GT card supports DirectX 10, can play even Crysis on a 32-bit Windows version very well (I play it from time to time, beautiful), but it isn't a 8800 card, nor is it the best card in all of laptop PCs. I do consider the Macbook Pro a desktop replacement, and I have very intensive use of my machine (scientific software for academics and industry, video games, multimedia, you name it).
So if you must play the latest game, and I mean the latest, with the highest frame-per-second count of all your friends, don't go for a 8600M GT, (ii) for a laptop anyways (laptop were never, never meant to compete with desktop-grade hardware, no matter what you local wise arses will tell you), and (iii) buy a console instead. BUT, if you want to play most games, very well, and you are concerned with media editing, usability, stability, reliability, etc., a Macbook Pro is a beautiful thing to have...
Cordially,
Dr Sly

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT - What does Apple use for replacement?

I have had 'issues' with my display on my MBP 2.4 since Jan. '08. I've documented this w/ Applecare (so there is a list of reported issues so they can see there's a problem as it's not something I can replicate at the Genius bar). It's still under warranty, but my concern, and question is this...
I'd like it fixed. But, If I bring in my MBP (again) to Apple and let's say they say it is the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT that's faulty, WHAT WILL THEY REPLACE IT WITH? Another 'faulty' chip? [I realize the whole board has to be replaced]
Is there a definitive answer to what NVIDIA chip Apple would use? I've read that they are using the SAME likely-faulty product. That is not good news. And if NVIDIA has acknowledged the problem, do they have a FIXED Chipset for this model?

My best guess is that the replacement boards also have the faulty chip. The fact that the affected MBP production run all the way to the last ones made (Sep 08) leads me to believe the there is no other option but to use the same video chips. BTW please do not assume that since the nvidia chip is soldered on the logic board that it can't be replaced. These Rev.2 boards could very well be just rebuild ones with the video chip replaced at a central workshop equipped to do such a thing.

Problem with MSI Nvidia GeForce 6800 LE (128MB) when playing 3D games

Games problem
I have bought a new MSI Nvidia GeForce 6800 LE (128MB) a couple of months ago and have been have loads of trouble when playing games.
In windows, the graphics card works fine. The computer never crashes and everything is speedy. Movies on DVD, Xvid, Divx all play fine without problem, the most I get is the occasional freezing and then windows will be normal again.
The problem arises when I try to play a 3D game. When I load up the game it goes into the menu screens ok, the computer will load up the 3D engine and it will play for around a minute nice and crisp then the screen will go blank and computer will lock up. Then all the drives will go quiet and the computer will make 3 beeps with the PC speaker. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL at this point does nothing, nor does the reset button. I have to turn the power on and off.
I really have no clue why this is happening, I have taken the covers off and kept it in a cool area, hoping that it was something to do with over heating, my computer is not overly cluttered and this has made no difference.
I have also unplugged the CDR, DVDR, USB ports, one Hard drive (storage) to see if it was something to do with the power no getting to the Videocard and then tried to play a game and the same problem arose.
I have two games that I have tried, Tiger woods 2005 and doom III, both of which crash in the same manner.
I have tried to be as detailed as I can with the descritopn of my computer below and the power details I'm not sure about so I posted a picture of the power unit to help.
Many thanks for your help in this matter, I'm desperately trying to get some worth out of this card and feel frustrated that its going bonkers only when trying to play games :/
Please tell me if you require further information about the system.
Neehar Shah
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Speed : 3.21GHz
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous ATC (8-way sectored, 64 byte line size)
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : Legend QDI PLATINIX-8
Total Memory : 511MB DDR-SDRAM
CPU
Model : Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GE Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (B1-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
BOIS
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 06/19/2003
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.30
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : SyncMaster 171S/ 175S/ 170S, SyncMaster Magic CX175S-AZ/LX175S
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE
OEM Device Name : Nvidia Corp ??? (0042)
OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_10DE, DEV_0042, REV_A1
Device Name : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) ??? (0042)
Product ID : VEN_1462, DEV_9751
Revision : K / 2 (161)
Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : Maxtor 6Y080L0 (76.3GB)
Hard Disk : ST3200822A (186.3GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : AOPEN CD-RW CRW2440 (CD 40X Rd, 24X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr)
Peripherals
USB Controller/Hub : USB 2.0 Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device
Device : Standard Game Port
Device : Creative SB Audigy
Device : Creative Game Port
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Network Services
Adapter : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC

Firstly, thank you for all your prompt responses, I really appreciate it. From the sounds of it, the PSU is ****
antec
From what I have read, the Antec PSUs have good reliability and ratings. I looked around and saw this one: Antec NEOPower 480W ATX PSU for around £65. I also went read that article posted by Dr Stu, which then stumbled on more articles about PSUs.
I have a couple more questions….
The rating of my system (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/Power_Supply_Calculator.php) with all the components running came out to be 422W. So do you think that the Antec NEOPower 480W ATX PSU would be sufficient for the computer considering I might add more RAM in the future?
Or should I buy the 500W+ one then?
Does anyone know if the Antec PSUs are quiet? My current q-Tec one makes me feel I'm in an aeroplane.
lucky I read the forum!
I was in Maplins (computer shop) at lunch and thought, that shiny 650W Q-Tec looks nice and there looks like loads of power, that much do the trick. i got to the counter and thought.....let me wait, till i get home from work and read some more on the forum about this PSU issue.
Thanks god I didn’t buy that S***. having read some of the reviews, i would have wasted loooots of money for nothing.

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