Controlling the displacement of 2 linear actuator

im using arduino to work the linear actuator
1) im not able to sync the 2 linear actuators togethers
2) stop at same distance with each other
3) im using dual channel 10A driver for DC motor board
4) using labview to simulate this movment
pls check the file below and offer any suggestion in doing so.
Attachments:
woirking linear actuator.vi ‏26 KB

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Hello,
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Td=2 the actuator was retracting on its own to its home position when I set Ki>=8.
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Force Conrtol Loop Settings Actuator-BEST.JPG ‏41 KB
Step Responce Actuator-Force Feedback-BEST.JPG ‏58 KB

Hello Jochen and thank you for your very nice reply.
The past few days I have been trying to implement your advice, but unfortunately I did not have much success. Let me start by saying that explanations to my problem, the 2nd one looked more probable, as I always make sure that there is contact between my actuator and the workpiece I am pushing against. So, I unmapped my DAC by setting up the axis as a stepper axis with no feedback and I used the Load DAC to apply voltage and see when my actuator starts moving. That gave me the upper and lower limits for the Static Friction Compensation filter (please refer to attached image). I then implemented this filter and tried to retune the PID parameters, but the results I got were poor.
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Do you perhaps have an explanation or comments for this behaviour? As for your other questions:
Sensor Bandwidth: N/A, Charge Amplifier Bandwidth: 200 kHz, Low pass filter: No (Amplifier has the capability though)
PID Update Period: 250 microseconds (fastest available)
NI Motion Version 2.3
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Step Responce Actuator-Force Feedback-Filter Settings.JPG ‏28 KB
Step Responce Actuator-Force Feedback-WITH FILTER_v2.JPG ‏69 KB
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