Conversion in Seeburger BIC and XI

Hi,
We receive e-mails with an EDIFACT messages (ORDERS or DELFOR) as an attachment. The e-mails are received in the same INBOX on an e-mail server.
I configured a sender mail adapter in XI and added the PAYLOADSWAPBEAN to put the e-mail attachment into a SOAP attachment (see also /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/18/xi-sender-mail-adapter--payloadswapbean--step-by-step)
Now I need to convert the EDIFACT message to XML EDIFACT using a standard 1:1 mapping of Seeburger. I have to determine dynamically what message has to be used (for ORDERS or DELFOR)
How can I establish this?
I tried to use the classifier and BIC modules of Seeburger but I did not succeed.
Ron

Hi all,
when receiving files and you have no idea what file it is, you usually use 3 Modules of the Adapter-Set:
1. SeeClassifier
- determines the file type (e.g. EDIFACT,ANSI...)
2. BIC
- can be set to "Auto"-Mode, which means depending on the information from the Classifier, it executes a "MainMapping" which takes a look at the Header-Fields of this type (for example if it is an Edifact-File it looks at the UNH-Information...and then dynamically creates the name of the real 1:1-Mapping that needs to be executed)
So this means, if you receive a Edifact-File with several UNH within a UNB, it can even be a combination of DELFOR; ORDERS, INNOIV or whatever... each UNH-Loop will be translated seperately with the correct Mapping.
3. Split-Module
This allows you to have a seperate attachment for each UNH-Part (for Edifact). A new SenderChannel can also be created depending on the UNB Sender-Information.
Hope this clarifies the Modules a little bit. If you receive for example lots of different files from different partners via a VAN like IBM or GXS, you probably have no other possibility than use these 3 Modules together to separate all these messages by type and partner and be able to process them correct in the XI.
Regards
Stefan

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Hi,
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Just some information required please.
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Hi mimranacc,
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
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http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
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Going to support EDI interface which uses Seeburger AS2 adapter either at sender or receiver side.I have few doubts on BIC module:
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2.For all the edi conversion using Seeburger do we need BIC module to convert messages from EDI to XML or from XML to EDI?
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thanks in advance.

Hi,
1.Do i need to install BIC tool on my laptop or it is a web based tool which i can access from seeburger workbench?
Yes you need to install BIC mapping tool in your laptop to do the mappings.
2.For all the edi conversion using Seeburger do we need BIC module to convert messages from EDI to XML or from XML to EDI?
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/people/bla.suranyi/blog/2006/06/08/sap-xi-supports-edifact
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/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/17/more-on-the-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield
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/people/bla.suranyi/blog/2006/06/08/sap-xi-supports-edifact
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
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/people/bla.suranyi/blog/2006/06/08/sap-xi-supports-edifact
/people/william.li/blog/2006/03/17/how-to-get-started-using-conversion-agent-from-itemfield
/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/17/more-on-the-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield
http://www.stylusstudio.com/edi/XML_to_X12.html
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http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
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