Converting an XDCAM 1080/60i 35 VBR timeline to SD 16:9 quicktime

I've created a project in an XDCAM 1080/60i 35VBR timeline. I'd like to export a
standard definition 16 x 9 quicktime out of it for presentation purposes to people without
the facility to play XDCAM discs.
I know I can do this with FCP and/or Compressor, but I'm not sure how.
Can somebody tell me precisely how to go about this?
Thanks for any assistance.

If you don't have the money to pay for a high quality hardware based standards conversion then you can use a slow (but still good quality) software conversion method ... try Apple's own Compressor application which is part of your Final Cut Studio suite
Or if you prefer to stay within FCP then you might want to have a look at Graeme Nattress's excellent Standards Conversion plugin set:
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm
By the way, if you go with the former then don't waste your time staying in the XDCAM codec, instead you'd be better targeting Apple ProRes 422 as your edit intermediate codec for the converted clips. Similarly, if you prefer to stay in FCP and need to to do a timeline based conversion using the Nattress plugins then you would likely do well to set your sequence format to Apple ProRes 422 rather than native XDCAM HD.
Cheers
Andy

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Wish I could help, but can only post that I too am having problems with progressive footage.
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1. Captured DVCProHD 1080/60P footage shot in 24P.
2. Edited footage in 59.94 rate.
3. Realized Pulldown was never removed.
4. Selected original media, and then selected "tools" menu and "Remove advanced pulldown"
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