Copied Files To HDD - 'Get Info' File Sizes are different?

Hi All ---
-- not sure how to put it any other way.....maybe this is a normal thing?
I've copied 161.78Gigs of data from the P.B. to Lacie HDD but 'Get Info' on target disk is only reading 161.61Gigs - all files seem to be in place, seem to be copied, working etc --- but thats about 17megs of info missing somewhere?
Uh, what gives?
should i trash, and re-do the whole lot again? hmm.
thnx for any help in Adv ----
John W.

Hi Joe ---
Thanks for that - have been offline since yest. -- seems the main P.B. drive decided to go AWOL on me - but just overnight though? No clue whats going on there -- have repaired disk, permissions, run onyx, etc..... just didnt want to boot, occasionally would boot from Ext. HDD - Drive Icon vanished, all sorts of nonsense.... and then returned this a.m. as if nothing had ever happened.
I reckon HD is on its way out.... hmm.
I'm now getting lots of beachballs. v. boring. Everything is backed up externally TWICE now (& cloned Drive TWICE??) - onto two separate drives - am just going to erase, reformat P.B. before reinstalling 10.3 & 10.3.9 -- off to see a Doctor/Repairman tomorrow.
thanks for the link -- will def. have a go with that in the future.
Cheers,
J.

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TimesTen Version : TimesTen Release 7.0.5.0.0 (64 bit Solaris)
OS Version : SunOS 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4u sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise
[TEST17A] side
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-rw-rw-rw- 1 timesten other 4113014784 Jan 29 02:23 SAMPLE.ds0
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[TEST17B] side
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[TEST18A] side
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[TEST18B] side
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