Copy Control Different Pricing Procedure same condition statistic
Hi Guys,
I have the following issue perhaps someone outhere can support me.
I have customized a copy control from Sales Order to another Sales Order(Credit Memo). For both sales orders I customized an own pricing procedure determination. For sales order A pricing procedure A is found, for sales order B pricing procedure B is found. That is working fine. Now my problem. The values of my conditions must be copied 1:1 from Sales order A to Sales Order B. In Pricing Procedure B is the same condition as in pricing procedure A only with the difference that this condition is customized in pricing Procedure B as STATISTIC, in pricing procdure A as non STATISTIC
I tried different settings for pricing type in copy control (VTAA)
C Copy manual pricing elements and redetermine the others
Result: My condition gets determined again but the problem is that now the condition has a negative value.
G Copy pricing elements unchanged and redetermine taxes
Result: Condition is copied 1:1 but also the NON STATISTIC sign is copied from Sales Order A
I want to copy the value of one conditon from Sales Order A to Sales Order B, but it should be (as customized in pricing procedure B) set in Sales Order B as STATISTIC.
Thanks for your help,
Matthias
Hi,
I found the solution myself. If you have anytime same problem go to V/08 and tick TSPP for your second pricing procedure.
Regards,
Matthias
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One vendor is providing service & material to the same Pur Org
Is it anyway to handle with only one vendor code for service & material procurement in same vendor account group with only one pricing procedure(calculation schema)?
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Re: Same Calculation Schema/Pricing Procedure- Same Vendor - Material & Service
Posted: Aug 19, 2011 7:16 AM in response to: ARUL MURUGAN1 in response to: ARUL MURUGAN1
Yes, you can do it. There shouldn't be any issueHi,
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