Cost center Vs cost elements

can any body give examples for Cost center groups, cost centers and cost elements..
Assigned poits..

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Cost Center Group
Definition
You can collect cost centers according to various criteria into groups. This enables you to use cost centers to depict the structure of the organization in the SAP System.
Use
You can use the groups to build cost center hierarchies, which summarize the decision-making, responsibility, and control areas according to the particular requirements of the organization. The individual cost centers form the lowest hierarchical level.
There must be at least one group that contains all cost centers and represents the entire business organization. This cost center group is described as the standard hierarchy. You can assign more cost center groups to the standard hierarchy.
You can also create any number of alternative groups. You can structure these, for example, according to organizational and/or functional viewpoints. Cost center groups enable you to perform evaluations for each decision-making, responsibility, or control area. They also support the processes during planning and internal allocations.
You can assign each cost center to only one group in the standard hierarchy, but to as many alternative groups as you require.
cost element
Classification of the organization's valuated consumption of production factors within a controlling area.
Each cost element corresponds to a cost-relevant item in the chart of accounts.
Cost centre:
You receive an overview of the actual and plan values, or the actual and target values with the corresponding absolute and percentage variances. The reports also display the fixed and variable portions of the actual, target, and plan costs as well as the actual and planned.
The Cost centers: Actual/Target/Variance report is structured by cost centers. The posted cost elements are listed for the selected cost center group or cost center.
The Area: Cost Elements report is structured by cost elements. For each cost element selected, the system displays the corresponding cost centers.
nagesh

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I'm having a problem with our Profit Center plan/actual/variance reports wherein it doesn't display the postings I made to the Secondary cost element when I executed an assessment cycle (KSU5). I already set in the configuration that all postings to be done in the cost centers, should have a parallel posting to the profit center assigned to it. I can see the postings in my cost center reports, but not in my profit center report. Could I have missed out on any procedure to enable the secondary cost element parallel posting in my profit centers? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

it might be the configuration of the library or some parameter in the report (record type should be 0 and 2 for actual values, where 2 stands for distributed values and 1 and 3 for planned values)
but it also might be that the reconciliation is done between different CC and same PC
- check your CC organisation asignment
- if sender cost center and receiver cost center have tha same PC it is probably the reason
- I had that problem my self and didn't solve it
cheers
matej

Report Painter Request - Cost Center and WBS Element

Hi Everyone,
Currently, my company settles all project related expenses through to a cost center by way of an internal settlement cost element (category 21). The issue with this is that when the expense gets to the cost center, they lose all visability as to where the expense originated, such as salaries or travel expense (category 1 cost elements). We can't switch the settlements to the originating cost element from wbs to cost center just because of the additional data/volume that will cause. My thought was to create a report painter that can run by cost center but also show the wbs's that settle to that cost center and group the expenses by primary cost element (cat 1). I'm assuming that there is a way to marry a cost center and wbs element by way of the wbs settlement rule but how would that be done for reporting purposes? I've seen it done before by way of a nightly job that created sets based on the combination of cost center and wbs but I'm not sure how that was done. Any advise and examples?
Example:
Cost Center: IT
WBS: A.0017.01.01 (settles to cost center IT)
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1. CC IT and CE 552000 "salaries"..............................$20,000
2. WBS A.0017.01.01 and CE 552000 "salaries"........... $5,000
3. Settlement of WBS to CC (expenses flow through to CC IT by way of CE 985000)
I want to run CC IT and see that the account 552000 really shows $25,000 and can be broken down by cost object (CC and WBS by the amounts above)
Thanks,
Pete

Hi Peter,
I had a similar requirement and used report painter report group 1SHK-002 (in library 1VK).
I took a copy of the standard and ameneded it slightly, I switched the explode so it occured on the cost center not cost element.
The report runs so that direct costs on the cost center are shown at primary cost level. And values settled to the cost center are shown on the partner object. In your case i guess WBS Elements (Partner ObjType WBS).
Now in my case I didnt need cost element breakdown on partner level, just on cost center so effectively I have(sorry for text alignment but I hope you get the idea):
GL1   ............. 100
GL2   ............. 250
+ Cost center1 total ....350
GL3 .............   50
GL4 ............. 100
+ Cost center2 total.... 150
Primary Cost Total ..... 500
X-YZ-1.200 .............   50
X-YZ-1.400 ............. 100
+ WBS total ............. 150
IO 1............. 100
IO 2 ............. 100
+IO total ............. 200
Partner Total............. 350
Overall total ............. 850.
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COPA derivation for thecombination of Cost center and Cost element/GL accou

Hi Gurus,
In COPA derivation using KEDR i am trying to make a derivation for the
combination of Cost center and Cost element. Here i got following problems
While posting FI document using t.code FB50 system not automatically
updating the fields Cost center and cost element in Profitability
segment. Hence system not posting COPA document. How can i make this
derivation? Is there any note should i apply regarding these.
How can i create cost element as characteristic.
If i configure derivation for the combination of Cost center and cost
element will it be posted with copa document for postings or automatic
postings from MM,HR and FI
Pls provide me solution at the earliest.
Thanks and Best regards,
Dhanumjaya.Ranga
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Hi Murali
Thanks for update
I explain my req clearly
For me segment is Distribution channel field (EXPORT and DOMESTIC)
If GL account is 1000-2000     always                      Export
If GL account is 2001-3000    and Cost center is     X then Export.
If GL account is 2001-3000    and Cost center is     Y then Domestic.
Based on above REQ i am making derivation using KEDR T.code.
These postings should work for all modules postings such as MM, HR also.
Actually this should work automatically and after saving the transaction we should have copa document also.
But problem is in source fields of derivation we have GL account (HKONT) and Cost element (KSTAR). I am making derivation using either of these.
But after posting document system not giving COPA document.
I found the reason is at GL postings we are giving input to GL account (HKONT) but we took in KEDR source field as GL account (SAKNR). GL account (HKONT) is not updating GL account (SAKNR) field in PSEG screen in Fb50. Even i try with cost element (KSTAR), GL account (HKONT) is not updating this in PSEG screen in fb50.
If GL account (HKONT) updates either GL account (SAKNR) or cost element (KSTAR) at the time of posting FB50
Or
If we have the field GL account (HKONT) as source field in KEDR i hope my problem
Get solved.
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BPS Retraction for Cost Center Accounting - Cost Element - Compounding with

Hello everybody,
I'm using the "BPS Retraction for Cost Center Accounting" described in the blog from Praveen Mayalur. I have customized the BPS system (3.5) as described.
But if i started the retraction i receive a dump. I have debug a little bit and i found out that there is a problem with the InfoObject "Cost Element". It is compounding with two InfoObjects "Source system ID" and "Controlling area".
PERFORM FILL_RSRDEP USING I_AREA
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                    CHANGING LT_RSRDEP
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IF L_SUBRC NE 0.
*Abhängige Merkmale müssen in der ITO_CHADEP stehen
MESSAGE X099(UPC).
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Does anybody have this problem before. ?
Regards Detlev

Hi,
it looks that your 0COSTELEMNT has been changed and the additional compounding object 0SOURSYSTEM has bben added. In BI Content it is only compounded to 0CO_AREA. So may be this is the problem.
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Regards,
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Cost Element and Profit center accounting

hi to all,
in my production system, most of PL accouts have been created as cost element. but some revenue and COGS accounts have not been created even there existed transaction data.
now i want to create all PL accounts as cost elements. revenue (category is 11) and COGS(category is 12) accounts link with Logistic, so i am not sure the effluence in the auto posting with Logistics. if there is any problem?
by the way, after create all PL accounts as cost element, i want all the transaction data for PL account can flow into profit center accounting because i want to generate profit center PL report. what shoul i do? set the profit center field mandatory or set Substitution? or some more reasonable solutions ?
expect your valuable suggestion/
thanks in advance
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Hi,
After creating P/L accounts as cost element when ever you will post to that account it will ask for posting to true CO object it can be a real cost center, real internal order or profitability segment etc.
If you want all P/L account to post to profit center, you can set profit center field mandatory and you can enter profit center manually.If your CO account assignment is cost center System can also derive profit center from cost center master data.and OKB9 is more option which u can make use of.

Primary Cost Element Report - Cost Center wise Totals

Dear Seniors,
Requirement is to have a report which gives Cost Center wise Totals (Net posted amount) for Primary cost elements with the following fields --
Company Code
G/L account
Business Area
Cost Center
Accounting Period
Fiscal Year
Net Posted Amount
Debit / Credit Indicator
Currecny
Which Table gives me this information ?
Thanks and Regards
KVKR

Hi
If you are on New GL - Then FAGLFLEXT (Totals table)
If not - Then GLT0 or tables startng with GLT*
You can also use reports FBL3N and subtotal on Cost Element/Cost Center
br, Ajay M

Cost center, cost element and asset

Hi Experts,
a) What is a cost element?
b) Is there any link between the cost center and the cost element
c) How can I tie a cost element to an asset?
Thank you,
Raneetha Weerasinghe.
Moderator: Avoid asking basic questions

Hi ,
First and foremost thing , a cost element is the shodow account of all the Expense / Revenue nathure P&L accounts in CO i.e controlling . There are no B/S type accounts which are created as cost elements . Primary cost elements are P&L GL accounts which are created in chart of account and in CO you call them as cost elements , they have to be created in CO
Secondly , In a cost element you can porovide the default cost center as to where it will post like if you have created cost element 1 then you can say that cost element 1 would always post to cost center 1 . else when there is a posting to be made in P&L account type GL then you will have to provide a cost objet which can be cost center .
Thirdly assets to cost elements , that would be used in IMG setting only when you have the P & L type accounts for depn. , write off revenue / loss etc. there you mention those GL accounts and system derives the cost element from there .
In the 3 rd Question what is the exact requirement please elaborate .
Hope this helps .
Regards ,
Dewang T

How to assign cost center to cost element.

Hello,
Can any one please guide how to assign cost center to cost element.
Thanks in Advance..
Have a nice day...

Hi ,
There are 3 ways :
1. Default the cost center in cost element - Ka02 - account assingment tab enter cost center .
2. Use OKB9 for diffrent combinations as per your requirement .
3. Use GGB1 for substituting the cost center based on some conditions .
Regards ,
Dewang T.

MIRO Cost Element error for Cost center

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When i am doing MIRO - there are some price variances. System is giving the error to maintain the Cost center for that price differance cost element.
But i have already maintain the Cost center for that Cost element in OKB9 Transaction. Why the system is asking for Cost center assignment again?
Kindly help me
Thanks
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Maintain the OKB9 settings with valuation area mandatory and dont give business area in the sub-sequent screen. Maintain only Valuation area and Cost center. It will not give any error and it will pull the cost center from OKB9.
Thanks
Kishore

Cost element/cost center planning for period

Dear Guru`s,
My client wan`t to plan the g/l with cost center/cost element period wise. How can I achieve this???

Hi..
If you transfer plan data from cost center accounting to Financial Accounting, refer to sap help portal site:Transferring Plan Data from Cost Center Accounting - General Ledger Accounting (FI-GL) (New) - SAP Library

Cost center and Cost element.

Hi all,
I am in an urgent need to understand the relation between cost center and cost element. Please provide me with their individual information as well as the link they share. An existing relationship table between the two, if any, ...then plz mention.
Thanks & Regards,
Naresh

Cost Element: cost element is an individual which carry cost like salaries, wages, power expenses, etc.. These Cost Elements are Two types
1. Primary Cost Element
2. Secondary Cost Elements
Primary Cost Element will carry cost form FI to CO (Cost Centers, Internal Orders, Cost Objects, etc)
Seconday Cost Elements carry cost with in CO to different Cost Centers, Internal Orders, Cost Objects, etc
Cost Center: Cost Center is an individual which contain collection of costs. For example Admin is a cost center, it contain costs like Salaries, Power, Rent, Stationary etc,
With this following report you can retrieve cost elements given a cost center controlling cost center accounting information systems reports for cost center accounting plan/actual comparisons
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Cost center , valuation area and cost element

Hi ,
i use OKB9 to access relationship for cost element and cost center, where can i find table for detail business area/valuation area and cost center , as in OKB9 ineed to drill in one by one to check the data .
Thanks

Hello Aik
Check MARA table, you would find all the fields.
Reg
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SAP Table to get Cost Center Acct Line Items based on Cost Element

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My question is pretty straight forward.
Is there a way to get cost center document line items efficiently by just using the Cost Element(most specifically), Period, Posting Date, and Fiscal Year (Cost Center would help too)? I ask this because other tables I am asking are quite slow. So basically im trying to look for the the BSIS/BSAS equivalent for cost center accounting.
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Hi ,
Check out this link .You will get what is want with linkage also.<a href="http://www.erpgenie.com/abap/tables.htm">FI tables</a>\
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Cost Element Cost center breakup

How can i craate a report painter report for Cost element, cost center breakup???
pl help in creation.
Regards
Reddy

Go to GRR2. Double-click on the row All Values under Cost Elements/Costs Centers. Remove cost center in the pop up screen and click on the check mark to continue. Now, create another column for the cost center. Bear in mind that, you can only do this in the copy you created.
Please disregard my earlier suggestion. Because if you do, it will change the whole format of the report and will not produce a suitable result.
Regards,
Elias
Edited by: Elias Akorli on May 17, 2010 11:01 AM

Forecast for planning over the Cost element/Cost center with KP06

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I'm searching a idea: one of our chief controller need to insert a "forecast" of budget inserted over the various cost elements/cost centers using the transaction KP06. THe problem is that he don't want lost the budget because he can need the reload the previous budget data during the year if the actual situation change. Obvisiously the insertion of the forecast overwrite the budget data over the version 0. This forces us to download over a file the budget and archive it, and reload it eventually. But this solution, a part the programming effort, don't permit to have both the data at the same time in the system. Exist a pratical customizing solution in CO for manage a "forecast"? Our release is 46c.
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Thanks Pascal.
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>KP98 is the transaction to copy postings from version 0 to >another version. In this case version 0 is the template.
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