Creation of PL Element without it being a cost element
Hi
I have to asign two PL elements in T code 0KEK for transfer of material between two profit centers. The two elements should not be <b>cost elements</b> but they should be PL Elements to be used only in PCA.
We have to create PL elements through FS00. But the system automatically creates a new cost element when i create a GL as a PL nature. Pls let me know how to create a PL element without it being a cost element.
Regards
Sanil Bhandari
Hi Sanil
IN OB13
Controlling integration tab
select : Manual creation of cost element and create GL accts.
Hope this works
Best Regards
Ashish Jain
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