Credit check issue in third party order

Dear all,
We are facing some issues related to credit management data for one of our customer. I need your valuable inputs for below mentioned queries-
1. As a genaral question- When we releases a SO through VKM* How the system calculated the " Released Credit Value of the document".
2- For one of the customers, the FD33 shows a Sales value X USD. As i see the split of this sales value , this X USD amounts to OPEN DELIVERIES. Both Open So and Open billing are zero. We tried to check with no. of tcodes to find out the open values but no such Open delv document is appeared.
In VC/2, it only shows Open SO, no open deliveries are there.
So i tried with simulation program RVKRED88, and found 5 third party Sales documents , against which some value is coming under the Open delivery value and it sums up to the value as coming in FD33.
I have a few questions on this-
> All the SO in output are Third party SO, against which PO has been created, ( Third party So> PR> PO> MIRO--> billing) and all are in status OPEN, so how come they are showing value in OPEN DELIVERY ?
--> The value appearing against these third party SO is Not equal to items value/net value, it is a complete different value than appearing in SO. But in SO changes history , the same value is coming AS RELEASED CREDIT VALUE. How is it being calculated?
For eg- for one of the Third party SO , the value coming in RVKRED88 is 29573.53 USD,
                                                            net value in So= 24,120.00 USD, Qty = 6000 PC , Credit price= 4.02 USD
                                                            Credit value of So in VBAk= 29573.53 USD
                                                           SO created , released on 08.July.2011, confirmed schedule line =08.Oct.2011
Credit settings- Static check + Credit active Item cat and SO ,  Open So and open delv are ticked in credit settings.
Kindly help in the analysis.
many thanks in advance for the inputs.

Hi Dharmendra,
1.  When we release a sales order using VKM* transaction S066 information structure and OEIKW field is updated which increases open order value.
2. If there is mismatch in the values of credit related fields run RVKRED77 (Re-organisation of credit in case of update errors) this will update all the credit data for a Payer customer in real time. RVKRED88 is simulation mode.
3. Updating of values related to credit is controlled by the update group assigned to credit control area. If system is not able to update  using the assigned update group it will automatically try updating using the next update group. Below is the text of SAP Help.
If a document cannot be processed with the update group you specify, the system determines the next possible update it can carry out. For example, you select Update group 000012 which, at delivery, reduces the open order value and increases the open delivery value. Assume that one item in the order is not relevant for delivery. In this case, the system automatically determines Update group 000018 for this item. Update group 000018 increases the open delivery value for the order item. The system uses the confirmed quantity of delivery-relevant schedule lines to update the order value
As you know in OVA8 transaction credit control area, Risk category, credit group and currency are assigned to update group.

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    Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
    Purchasing org,
    purchasing group,
    assign the Purchase org to company code
    assign Purchase org to plant,
    should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
    1. Create Vendor XK01
    2. Create Material – Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
    3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
    4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
    5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
    6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
    7. Goods receipt MIGO
    8. Goods issue
    9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
    10. Billing *--
    SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
    VA01
    Order Type
    Sales org, distr chnl, div
    Enter
    Sold to
    PO #
    Material
    Quantity
    Enter
    Save
    SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
    VA01
    Order Number
    Goto Item Overview
    Item ->Schedule Item
    SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
    ME52N
    Key in the PR number
    Save
    SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
    ME57
    Key in the PR number
    Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
    Execute
    Check the box next to the material
    Assign Automatically button
    Click on "Assignments" button
    Click on "Process assignment"
    The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
    Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
    Save
    SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
    MIGO_GR
    PO Number
    DN Number
    Batch tab , click on classification
    Serial Numbers tab
    Date of Production
    Flag Item OK
    Check, just in case
    Post
    Save
    SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
    MIRO
    Invoice Date
    Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
    Check the box
    Click on "Copy"
    Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
    Amount
    State the baseline date
    Simulate & Post
    Invoice Number
    *Invoice blocked due to date variance
    SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
    VL01N
    In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
    Go to "picking" tab
    State the qty and save
    SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
    VF01
    Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
    Enter
    Go to edit -> Log
    Save
    Third party order processing is as follows:
    Assume three companies X, Y and Z
    X - The company,
    y - The customer
    Z - Vendor
    When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
    If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
    Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
    Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
    Z produces the goods and supplies to X
    X receives the goods from Z
    Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
    After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
    Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
    This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
    The other method is a Third party order processing method:
    Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
    X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
    Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
    Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
    After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
    The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
    Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
    This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
    There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
    Step1)
    If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
    The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
    if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
    Step 2)
    the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
    For that you need to configure the item category determination
    Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
    OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
    OR + BANS + + = TAS
    Step 3)
    make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
    step 4)
    The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
    make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition.
    Award if Helpful,
    Regards
    Priyanka.P

  • THIRD PARTY ORDERING

    HI SAP GURUS
    CAN ANY ONE HELP ME OUT
    1.     WHAT IS THIRD PARTY ORDERING? HOW WE CONFIGURE THIRD PARTY ORDERING ?  DOES DELIVERY OCCURS IN THIRD PARTY ORDERING? WHEN
    2.     IF I HAVE GOT 4PLANTS HTEN HOW MANY BILLING CAN BE DONE?
    3. AFTER PGI WHAT HAPPENS IN FI ? WHICH ACCOUNT IS CREDITED WHICH ONES DEBITED?
    4.     IN PRICING PROCEDURE I HAVE NET PRICE AS Rs100 AND TAX IS Rs30 THE TOTAL IS Rs130. WHICH ACCOUNT ISDEBITED AND WHICH ACCOUNT IS CREDITED?
    5.     HOW STOREGE LOCATION IS DETERMINED? WHAT IS MALA AND WHAT IS  RITA
    THANKS AND REGARDS
    RAM

    Hi ram
    this is the process of third party.
    process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
    Customize the third party sales in summary:
    1. Create Vendor XK01
    2. Create Material – Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
    3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
    4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background 
    5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
    6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO 
    7. Goods receipt MIGO 
    8. Goods issue
    9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
    10. Billing      *-- Seema Dhar
    SD -  3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
    VA01
          Order Type
          Sales org, distr chnl, div
          Enter
          Sold to
          PO #
          Material
          Quantity
          Enter
          Save
    SD -  3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
    VA01
          Order Number
          Goto Item Overview
          Item ->Schedule Item
    SD -  3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
    ME52N
          Key in the PR number
          Save
    SD -  3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
    ME57
          Key in the PR number
          Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
          Execute
          Check the box next to the material
          Assign Automatically button
          Click on "Assignments" button
          Click on "Process assignment"
          The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
          Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
          Save
    SD -  3rd party sales order Receive Goods
    MIGO_GR
          PO Number
          DN Number
          Batch tab , click on classification
          Serial Numbers tab
          Date of Production
          Flag Item OK
          Check, just in case
          Post
          Save
    SD -  3rd party sales order Create Invoice
    MIRO
          Invoice Date
          Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
          Check the box
          Clilck on "Copy"
          Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
          Amount
          State the baseline date
          Simulate & Post
          Invoice Number
          *Invoice blocked due to date variance
    SD -  3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
    VL01N
          In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
          Go to "picking" tab
          State the qty and save
    SD -  3rd party sales order Create a billing document
    VF01
          Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
          Enter
          Go to edit -> Log
          Save
    Please Reward Points.  If you feel this answer add value to you
    Thanks & Regards
    Mubeen.

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