Credit Management - Check for Item Payer

Hi All,
Credit management is checked at header payer level. For cleint requiremnt , we want this check for Item payers.
Is there any possibility for the same.
Thanks in advance
Regs
Madhu

Hi,
The credit check will happen with the credit account which you maintain in FD32, it can be any partner function. But, in standard SAP it happens for a sold-to-party.. which means we normally maintain SP as a credit account in FD32.. and logically it's the right way..
Now, coming to your query.. if you maintain the credit account for the payer then system will perform the credit check for that payer only.. it doesn't matter if it is maintained at header level or item level.
Hope this will clear your doubt along with the problem.
Do let me know.
Hrishi

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