Cross dissolve transition between multiple video tracks?

I'm wanting to cross dissolve between 2 clips, with each clip consisting of 2 or 3 video tracks (one clip is a still image in track v2, sitting above a color matte in v1; the other clip is motion footage in v1, with another cropped motion image in v2 and v3). When I put cross dissolves between the 2 clips (ie 2 dissolves, one for video track v1 and one for v2), the dissolve is "messy", showing the cropped images in v2 and v3.
To make the dissolves "clean" I can render and export the multiple-track clips, but then I have to add handles to allow the dissolve, and then it takes time to resync each clip, which is very annoying!
Is there a technique for making cross dissolves between multiple-track video clips?

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Practice and logical deconstruction.
If your original clip is 10 seconds and your nest is 10 seconds you must trim off 2 seconds of the nest to perform a 2-4 second dissolve. If that pulls too much of your original clip out of the timeline, you must add two seconds to the original clip so the nest is 12 seconds long so you can trim off the 2 seconds requried to perform the dissolve.
An easier way of accomplishing this is to stack the two nests and apply a keyframed opacity ramp to the upper track. This will help you visualize what you're doing wrong and how to add more handles to the upstream clips.
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So was I, until Steve slapped me around and forced some sense in me. Glad that he got there when he did, or I would have looked even more foolish. I got hung up on A-B Roll editing and just went blank. Sorry for being such a dufus. At least my statement on Dip-to-Black was correct...
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Is there a way to apply a transition, such as a cross disolve, to multiple video tracks by only placing it on the top track and having it applied to the others below it rather than duplicating it on each track below?
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