CS3/CS4 - Persistent data results in missing plugin warning

Hi,
In my plugin I add persistent data to kDocBoss and kSplineItemBoss.
If the users of my plugin sends a document to one that do not have the plugin, a missing plugin dialog is shown. This is not a big problem, however, users without the plugin are unable to package the document due to the missing plugin!
Is it possible to make InDesign discard persistent data if the plugin is not available, so that the document no more depends on the plugin?
I will be thankful if somebody can give me a hint on this problem.
Kind regards Toke

Hi again,
IgnoreTags solved my problem
Kind regards Toke

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